Well done, James - I'm very impressed with your efforts to turn Adam into a
dedicated Schleicher fan!
For years I have tried to get sense into him but unfortunately without
success. 

Bernard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James
Dutschke
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 7:49 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category


Schleicher got on this one quickly!!
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> On 25 Jan 2014, at 18:45, "Derek Ruddock" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> "How about some no-water-ballast contests"
> 
> Club Class anyone?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Staniforth
> Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 5:30 PM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category
> 
> Here's the glider you're after Adam.
> Dick Butler's first ASW22, serial number two.
> Tried to attach a pdf but it was too large, here's just the Wil 
> Scheuemann article on water ballast from Soaring, June 1984.
> Jim
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 1/24/14, Adam Woolley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category
> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:36 PM
> 
> I like your
> thinking Mike :)
> On 25 Jan 2014, at 13:18, Mike Borgelt 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Well you could fly something that looks like one but  isn't.
> 
> 
> Buy ASW22.
> 
> 
> Make molds from it.
> 
> 
> Build glider in those molds.
> 
> 
> Nothing to stop you using pushrods, hardware  etc out of the  one you 
> bought.
> 
> 
> Call it the AW1 (or Superpuppup).
> 
> 
> Put 850 Kg on the gross weight when you apply for the  Amateur built 
> Experimental certificate.
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:32 PM 25/01/2014, you wrote:
> 
> I'm a Schempp-Hirth fan, through
> & true - but I can't let that get in the way of the  ASW22BLE (now a  
> poor mans open class glider), a glider I've always  dreamt of owning!
> 
> 
> 
> You heard it first here Bernard :)
> 
> 
> Sadly the ASW22 that is for sale (at AU$70k landed in AUS),  is sn29, 
> so a small wingspan & limited to 750kg.
> 
> 
> An offline response suggests pretty clearly I couldn't  fly it at 
> 850kg during a competition.
> 
> 
> In the mean time, Schempp-Hirth all the way!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> WPP
> 
> 
> P.s. Ventus 3 (three), mmm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jan 2014, at 5:50, "Future Aviation"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Hi Adam
> 
> 
>> You don't need to go experimental, mate! The later  ASW 22 models are
> already
> 
> 
>> approved for 850 kg.
> 
>> I'm just a little worried that the ASW 22 might be  a little too
> slippery for
> 
> 
>> you.
> 
> 
>> Kind regards
> 
> 
>> Bernard
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>> From: [email protected]
> 
> [
> mailto:[email protected]] On  Behalf Of  Adam
> 
>> Woolley
> 
>> Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 7:58 PM
> 
>> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in  Australia.
> 
>> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category
> 
> 
>> If I could get enough water in the wings of an ASW22  that is limited  
>> to
> a
> 
>> MTOW of 750kg...
> 
> 
>> Could I fly it at 850kg under an experimental category  glider within
> the
> 
>> GFA, & at an AUS Open Class Nationals?
> 
> 
> 
>> Cheers,
> 
>> WPP
> 
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