Dear Chris, Could you please explain the legislative background which makes the GPC right now as is, ICAO compliant?
However, on September 2, I wish to convert my GPC into a CASA Glider Pilot License, can you please tell me how to do this? Ron Sanders On 24 August 2014 17:21, Christopher Thorpe <[email protected]> wrote: > To dispel some of the misinformation written about the GPC: > > > > 1. The GFA GPC *is* ICAO compliant. > > 2. The holder of a GPC is automatically granted L1 Independent > Operator status (refer MOSP2, paragraph 10.5). > > 3. Foreign pilots can readily convert an overseas issued ICAO > compliant licence to the GPC (refer the GFA web site > <http://www.glidingaustralia.org/GFA-Ops/foreignpilots.html> for details). > > 4. This year, Mal Read (CASA) and I have assisted several > Australian pilots convert their GPC to an overseas ICAO licence. Granted > this was not necessarily an easy thing to do given the current EASA > regulatory environment. > > 5. When CASR Part 61 comes into force on 1 September 2014, > Australian pilots wishing to fly overseas can use their GPC to obtain a > CASA Glider Pilot Licence to overcome past difficulties with overseas > recognition. > > > > Regards > > > > [image: image001]*Christopher Thorpe* > Executive Manager, Operations | Gliding Federation of Australia (ABN 82 > 433 264 489) > > *M*: +61 4 1447 6151 | *E*: [email protected] | *w*: www.g > lidingaustralia.org <http://glidingaustralia.org/> > > > > au.linkedin.com/pub/christopher-thorpe/25/2b8/b4b/ > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ulrich Stauss > *Sent:* Sunday, 24 August 2014 11:32 AM > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no > clothes > > > > Picking up from Michael Scutter: > > > > Will overseas pilots holding an ICAO compliant (glider) pilots license and > an FAI Sporting license still require a GPC to fly in Australian > competitions? > > Perhaps more importantly, do the insurances recognise both the FAI > Sporting license and the GPC for their purposes? > > > > Or are there provisions in place to recognise the FAI Sporting license as > equivalent/superior? > > If so does this also apply to an Australian pilot holding an FAI Sporting > license but not a GPC? (What if this pilot also holds an overseas ICAO > compliant (glider) pilots license?) > > > > Will the points of a competitor in an Australian National Championship who > only holds a GPC but no FAI Sporting license be recognised for the FAI/IGC > Pilot Rankings? > > > > To my knowledge the GPC is not ICAO compliant nor recognised anywhere > overseas. I guess that will have to wait until the CASA GPL finally gets > off the ground. The way I read the MOSP, the GPC in practice merely means > that the holder has a C certificate and may have been trained according to > the ‘new’ rearranged syllabus and to Level 1 independent operator standard > (but does not necessarily hold the L1 IO rating!). > > > > In the meantime our pilots who want to compete overseas are still on their > own in the battle with foreign bureaucracies to obtain an ICAO compliant > license from wherever this is easier or quicker in their circumstances (UK, > US, Czech Republic…) on the basis of the C certificate – good luck to > anyone attempting that based on a GPC. > > > > Wasn’t that the primary issue that the GPC was supposed to fix? > > > > The emperor has no clothes! > > > > Ulrich > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *pam > *Sent:* Friday, 22 August 2014 10:35 > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses > > > > Records: > > You must have an FAI Sporting Licence before you make a record attempt. > One pilot this year had a record claim rejected because he had no Sporting > Licence. You pay $10 and renew every 2 years. > > A pilot can only hold one Sporting Licence, so for example if you already > hold one issued by Australia, you fly records and International > Competitions as a representative of Australia. You can’t compete in the > French Team, if you hold an FAI Sporting Licence issued by Australia. In > other words, the FAI Sporting Licence is dependent on your Nationality or > Residence. > > Competitions: > > The use of the word ‘competition licence’ is confusing, when it refers to > the FAI Sporting Licence. It was a requirement of the insurance company > providing liability insurance to competition organisers, as evidence of > pilots’ competence, and perhaps in everyday speech it sounds simpler to say > ‘competition licence’. It appears now that the insurer is happy to accept a > GPC for competitions in Australia. > > Pam > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Peter > Champness > *Sent:* Thursday, 21 August 2014 7:33 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses > > > > I agree with the OPs Panel. The International Competition Licence was > never necessary and should not have been adopted for domestic competition. > The Glider Pilot Certificate has some merit and I personally am very happy > to adopt that for our competitions. It is a lot more comprehensive than > the old Silver badge. > > > > What happens if you fly a potential record flight and you don't have an > International Competition Licence. Can you apply for it retrospectively? > > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Adam Woolley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > A timely question Don, > > I think the comp license has now been replaced by a GPC. > > > Cheers, > WPP > > > > > On 21 Aug 2014, at 18:28, Don Woodward <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > G'day all, Jen and I have just spent the last hour searching the web for > the address to send your competition license to to get it renewed but we've > failed. Can someone please assist and remind me of the postal address? > > > > Regards > > Don Woodward > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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