Hi Mark

Thank you for a detailed and logical post. Frankly I do not think I would
take issue with most points you make. I simply think my personal experience
is different. I am not a member of any other flying organisation so I
cannot compare.

The fact is that I do not see that GFA impedes what I want to do, nor what
a majority of glider pilots I personally know (a limited sample) do. Does a
level 2 instructor impedes my flying, not in the least, do I feel in any
way "supervised"? Not in the least. When it is my turn to run the day, do I
interfere with any of the solo pilots? No.

So  the only time I feel as a second-class aviator is when i hook into a 6
kt thermal and I know that Alan Barnes would be doing 8 :).






Cheers

Paul


On 2 September 2014 12:30, Mark Newton <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You say "When our newcomers realise that they will always be treated as
> second class aviators we can't blame them when they vote with their
> feet." Well I have been involved in gliding for some fourteen years now,
> with a reasonably sized club and I am yet to encounter any pilot being too
> worried about being classed as "second class aviator”.
>
>
> <puts hand up>
>
> Hi, I’m Mark.
>
> I’m another 14 year glider pilot, just like you.  In addition to a GPC
> with an L2 instructor rating and a D1109 airworthiness cert, I also have an
> RAAus pilot certificate, and a CASA PPL(A).
>
> During my time in the GFA system, I’ve spent 3 years as a club CFI.  I
> know all about GFA’s attitude towards personal responsibility.
>
> I’m yet to encounter *any* other form of aviation in any other
> jurisdiction where a trained pilot is not considered responsible for their
> own actions; or where an instructor is expected to assume some kind of
> poorly defined “responsibility” for what other trained pilots do, simply by
> virtue of being present at the time of their launch.
>
> … except the military, which is, I believe, where the GFA’s system and
> attitude originates.
>
> There was a time when I didn’t care about any of this:  I was a GFA
> member, a glider pilot, and that’s simply the system, take it or leave it.
> So I totally understand why it doesn’t matter to some (most) glider pilots.
>
> But after exposure to the CASA and RAAus systems, my attitude has changed.
>
> The Commonwealth of Australia considers me competent to make and be
> responsible for all my own decisions relating to my operations and the
> airworthiness of my aircraft.
>
> The GFA does not.
>
> That paternalism grates.  At each membership renewal since I gained my
> PPL, I’ve thought a little bit harder about whether I’m prepared to accept
> the GFA’s increasing tendency to centralize, to oversee, to diminish the
> responsibility that each pilot has to maintain their own safety.  I’ve also
> thought about the responsibility of instructing, and “taking charge” of an
> operation that can only be influenced, not controlled, and whether that’s
> something I want to expose myself to.
>
> I’m also increasingly of the view that some of that philosophy reduces
> safety. There are so many things that GFA pilots can convince themselves
> they never need to worry about because someone else will second-guess the
> decision for them.
>
> My membership is currently overdue.  I’m still thinking.
>
> Last weekend I was going to fly my RV out to a gliding club to try them on
> for size, to have an annual check and see if we we’re a good fit for each
> other, and see if there are any openings in that I might be able to
> contribute to. I would have renewed my membership to make that happen, but
> I had a bad night’s sleep on Saturday night and didn’t assess myself as
> passing an IMSAFE check for that kind of operation, so I stayed home
> instead.  Now I have some more work travel coming up and it’ll probably be
> at least a month before I get another opportunity, so maybe I’ll keep
> thinking about whether GFA’s philosophy is compatible with me until October
> or November.
>
> Here’s something that’s important, which I think is frequently lost:
>
> Aviation is a technical discipline, but it has a strong emotional
> dimension as well.  We fly because we get some kind of high out of it:  We
> *love* it, otherwise we wouldn’t put ourselves through the time and money
> and setbacks and heartache needed to enjoy it.
>
> Different people find that emotional response in different ways.
>
> For some people, it’s about flying higher or further or faster or longer
> than anyone else.  For those people, the philosophy of the GFA is utterly
> irrelevant:  As long as they can get into a glider, who cares, right?
>  These are the people the GFA serves the best, in my opinion.
>
> For others, emotional reward comes from making contributions.  We’re the
> people who instruct or serve on committees or get airworthiness
> credentials.  For us, the philosophy of the GFA *does* matter, a bit,
> because it defines the framework those contributions are made in:  It’s
> unlikely, for instance, that someone will find reward in instructing if
> they believe GFA’s syllabus provides bad safety outcomes.
>
> Then, there’s at least one other group:  Entire libraries of books have
> been written about the gut emotional appeal that the *freedom* of human
> flight satisfies.  That isn’t just the ability to soar with the birds, it’s
> also tied up with the fact that it’s one of the few pursuits left where an
> individual can assume “command responsibility” and make decisions without
> being second-guessed by a bureaucrat, and be wholly responsible for the
> outcome of those decisions.
>
> For that group, GFA’s philosophy of *never* yielding control and
> responsibility to pilots is utterly toxic, and incredibly patronizing.  No
> matter how much training we do, we can never be trusted to assume command
> of an aircraft under our own recognizance, we’re always being “supervised”
> by someone else.
>
> So the FAA system, where you have a PPL(G) and fly gliders without being
> forced to be a member of a private association, is incredibly attractive.
>  That’s what we expected from the CASA GPL, and the fact that its design
> has been sabotaged to *specifically* to exclude that outcome is the
> source of much bitterness and negativity among some of us.
>
> I don’t want to be “supervised” by someone else.  I’m not if I fly as an
> RAAus member, or as a CASA license holder. I’m only a second-class aviator
> not trusted to make my own decisions independently if I fly with GFA.
>
> In literally every other aviation discipline, I can front up to an
> aircraft owner, flash a pilot’s certificate, hire an aircraft, and be 100%
> responsible for my actions.  Under the GFA system, I can’t.  That’s been a
> common complaint about the GFA for as long as I can remember, and it’s
> immensely disappointing that there is no apparent intention to address it
> at all.  Membership-based organization not responding to members’ issues.
>
> I’ve had a lot of emotional reward from GFA over the last 14 years, do I
> want to abandon it?  I really enjoy flying gliders, but this stuff is
> important to me even if you don’t understand it and it isn’t important to
> you, and GFA makes it so freakin’ hard to extract pleasure from flying when
> this ridiculous, unnecessary paternalism overshadows everything.
>
> So I’m still thinking…
>
>
>   - mark
>
>
>
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