In Holland over 40% of glider pilots are women I believe. Their culture is 
totally different.

On 12/09/2014, at 7:09 PM, Mark Newton wrote:

> 
> I reckon there will be a bunch of people who’ve read some of the posts on 
> this mailing list today who’ll be saying, “I don’t see the problem. It’s just 
> a bit of harmless fun. Doesn’t hurt anybody.”
> 
> Guys say that all the time, never realizing that the only reason they're able 
> to say it is because they’ve typically been utterly indifferent to whether 
> their fun is, indeed, “harmless,” or whether it has hurt anybody.
> 
> I don’t know, perhaps parents of girls have a different view.  Perspective 
> and experience.
> 
> The reason it usually passes without mention is because most women, having 
> put up with it for their entire living memory, are so sick of it that they 
> can’t be bothered going through the exhausting rigmarole of engaging anymore, 
> and just remove themselves from situations where it’s a problem;  and because 
> so many men, harboring a cataclysmic failure of empathy, don’t even notice 
> the reactions of women, and just let it slide without saying anything.
> 
> “The secret life of women.” 
> http://i.imgur.com/OigLS.png
> (I know the cartoonist: He told me some of these quotes were provided by his 
> daughter)
> 
> In case you haven’t noticed (and I’m almost certain that some of you actually 
> haven’t), gliding is almost entirely dominated by men.  There’s no physical 
> reason why that should be the case.  There’s also no innate gender-based 
> difference in skill to explain it either.
> 
> I’m going to say it’s cultural:  The traditions and attitudes present at 
> gliding clubs all over Australia are, either overtly (like today’s email 
> messages) or subtly (like so much of everything else) repulsive to women.  
> I’ve seen so many women enjoy their AEF, stick with it for a couple of 
> weekends, and never come back.  And thousands of pilots barely ever wonder 
> why that’s the case.  Over time, gliding clubs become male ghettos, all over 
> Australia.
> 
> “What we walk past, we accept.”
> 
> When we’re learning to fly, the first lesson we’re taught is stability.  The 
> second lesson we’re taught is how to change our attitude.
> 
> This community seems absolutely excellent at stability. When it comes to 
> sexism, maybe it ought to be skilled enough to master attitude.
> 
> There’ll no doubt be replies to this message. I’ve said my piece, I’m not 
> going to respond to any of them them. But I, like everyone else who reads 
> them, will be making character judgements regardless.  If you find that idea 
> challenging, perhaps take 24 hours to have a good hard think about why.
> 
> Fin.
> 
>   - mark
>     [ I will also reserve judgement over whether off-list replies should be 
> forwarded to the list.
>       There will be no shadows here. ]
> 
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