Admire your passion Ross, I butted my head against aspects of the NBN years ago, trouble was the politicians I spoke with genuinely don¹t under IT most had/have trouble turning on their own computers.
I also remember one local meeting Turnball went to and his minders didn¹t like me stating Telstra was installing fibre to each politicians electoral office ³free² of charge. It didn¹t go down well as this group of voters were in a bad/black ADSL area. Turnball promised if your area is bad we will run fibre to your homes. As far as I know they never got fibre and way way down on the list of locations to have the NBN. Regards, Chris Hurley BE (Elec) Signal Manager ****************************************************** Dragon Rail Pty Ltd Phone: 1300 730 531 74 Allanfield Crescent Boronia, 3155 Victoria Australia ****************************************************** From: AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Matthew Moyle-Croft <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 30 September 2017 at 3:20 am To: Ross Wheeler <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Action (potentially semi-political post) Ross, Seems a parliamentary report basically agrees that NBNCo should have someone overseeing them: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-29/fixing-nbn-requires-tougher-rules-and- stronger-watchdog/9002802 Seems this would be a good step given the issues already. MMC On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Ross Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: > > Really just putting this "out there" for ideas, thoughts, directions... > > There is signigicant and growing unrest in the community over the nbn - what > it's costing, what it's delivering, etc. > > In some areas I'm sure it's doing an adequate job. > In other areas, and to some customers, it isn't. > > I cite by way of example, an individual consumer whos only option was nbn > fixed wireless. The fastest service available to them from any vendor was > listed as 50/20. (Well, "up to" in small print of course) > > The delivered service - which has been tested with now 4 completely different > and unrelated RSPs - has been entirely unacceptable, with peak speeds (2-3am) > reaching a blistering 25Mbps down and 10Mbps up (50%), while peak-use-time > (pretty much 3pm to 11pm) that drops to as low as 1.2Mbps down and about 2Mbps > up. > > This isn't uncommon from what I'm hearing. > > The thing that really gets under my skin is that virtually all the public > reporting on this blames the RSP for under-provisioning CVC. The nbn > themselves of course can't be reached directly by end-users, and widely, > loudly and constantly blame RSPs. I have sufficient evidence from different > suppliers to prove that in some cases this simply is not the case, and it's in > fact congestion between the POI and the customer (I'm talking here > specifically with reference to fixed-wireless, but the same problems may exist > with other technologies). > > Through their ongoing "mis-information" campaign, the end users are getting > shafted. Many carriers/RSPs are probably happy to maintain the current > situation because they blame nbn, nbn blame the RSP, and nobody can prove how > much blame resides with either, and eventually just give up. > > Complaints to the TIO cost us, as an industry. WE have to wear the costs, even > when it is outside our control. Where WE buy more capacity in an attempt to > alleviate the congestion, in many cases it does nothing to address the problem > (because it wasn't our CVC in the first place) so we're getting ripped off by > nbn just as the customer is. > > The ACCC seem to be doing nothing of any substance. Oh, sure, they're going to > fund some end-user speed-monitoring devices, but it still doesn't necessarily > show where the problem is. Sure, they're telling RSPs to advertise realistic > "peak use" speeds rather than headline "up to" speeds, but we're still not > addressing the root of the problem. > > Is there any interest, cohesive push, group or collective with any desire to > bring pressure to bear to increase transparency and actually get the steaming > pile of sh!t that is the current nbn (company, staff, infrastructure, policy, > etc, etc) to a position that is actually what was intended? > > I believe it will require political directives. As it stands, there is no > desire or incentive for nbn to change the way it is, and lots of reasons for > them to want to continue with the secret, hidden, non-disclosure, maximm > profit for minimum effort policies they've had for ages. > > We - as industry players and Australian citizens both - deserve better, but I > don't see it happening unless enough of us make a noise about it. > > (Or should I just resign myself to a world where jamtins and string are the > peak of technical innovation?) > > R. > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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