Hi,
I’ve got to agree with this. A properly scripted/documented list will reduce 
engineer call outs (improving staff morale) and, more importantly, mean that if 
they get woken up they know it’s worth doing something about. 

MMC

> On 17 Sep 2018, at 4:55 pm, Kisakye Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think what a human provides is the ability to sort through tickets for what 
> can wait until morning and what needs the engineer to wake up. If you are 
> forwarding the calls directly to an engineer on call, then half the time s/he 
> is making decisions on whether to get up or not.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:09 AM Chad Kelly <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> With most modern PBX systems they will tell you if it's a PBX call and 
> give you the option to either answer the call or hang up.
> 
> Or you can send the call to an answering machine which means you can get 
> to the issue the next morning.
> 
> If you are running services that are mission critical that you need the 
> phone answered 24/7 then you really need someone in the office who is 
> awake and functioning but given what has been discussed a decent PBX 
> would be fine as even if you wanted to redirect calls to a call centre 
> ware a human answers that is also an option, though less needed.
> 
> As a voicemail system would be a lot cheaper and tickets work better for 
> more complex issues anyway.
> 
> Regards Chad.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/17/2018 4:50 PM, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > I can see the benefit of having someone else take the call. I can remember 
> > my days as an on call engineer years ago where I would get a phone call 
> > from  the NOC in the middle of the night, I would need to keep a pen and 
> > paper by the bed to write down basic details, as in my just woken state, I 
> > would forget whatever I was told 2 seconds later.
> >
> > You don’t want end customers talking to someone who just woke up seconds 
> > ago, as they won't be in a state to properly take down details and provide 
> > a mechanism to follow up (ticket numbers etc)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andrew Jones
> > 0435 658 228
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Chad Kelly
> > Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 4:35 PM
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; 
> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] after hours staff requirement
> >
> > On 9/17/2018 12:00 PM, [email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking for a company to take on our level 1 support, after hours.
> >> 10pm - 8am AEST
> >> 7 days a week, including public holidays.
> >> Would prefer a local Australian company, but will consider
> >> International too.
> >> Require a team of sorts, that handles other companies too as it's not
> >> financially viable to have a team dedicated to us as the volume of
> >> calls is bugger all.
> >>
> >> We'll just redirect the 1300 number to you during those times, a
> >> simple greeting, take down notes and urgency, check the on-call
> >> calendar and call the Engineer to action.
> >> Basically, I need you to wake up the Engineer on call:)
> > Frankly if this is all you need a decent phone system will do this without 
> > you needing to hire an outsourcing company.
> > Most decent PBX systems will redirect to a mobile after hours or better yet 
> > straight to an answering machine that will email a voicemail message to an 
> > engineer.
> > That way they can decide if the message is important enough to bother doing 
> > anything about, and frankly if you offer an on call service you should be 
> > charging enough that it deters  unwanted callers from ringing you in the 
> > middle of the night anyway.
> > This is why we don't advertise 24/7 support as idiots randomly spam the 
> > ticket system with rubbish which you then need to delete anyway.
> > We offer support for critical issues on weekends for existing customers 
> > only.
> > Your PBX also should have a decent blacklist function for telemarketers.
> >
> > Regards Chad.
> >
> > --
> > Chad Kelly
> > Manager
> > CPK Web Services
> > Phone 03 5273 0246
> > Web www.cpkws.com.au <http://www.cpkws.com.au/>
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