OK…


Why don’t we simply power cycle this government of crazed, religious Luddites?



Other sectors have the right to strike, let’s turn their infrastructure off for 
48 hours.

Who will trust Australian cloud providers or programmers after these ruinous 
legislations?

Are we, as an industry, prepared to forfeit our livelihoods and the future of 
Australia?

Our American masters and overlords must be wringing their hands in abject glee…

Their disciples of chaos have stripped away more rights in a year than they 
have in a decade…



Sticking one’s head up one’s anal cavity doth not a valid protest make…

How about growing a set and standing up to this stupidity?



A



From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Mark Newton
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2019 4:35 PM
To: Serge Burjak <sbur...@systech.com.au>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions



This passed the Senate after 90 seconds of debate without the bill itself being 
made available to MPs last night.



It passed the House today after about four minutes of debate with no 
crossbenchers being allowed to speak.



It’ll receive royal assent and become law, probably tomorrow.



But sure, take their consultation processes seriously, acknowledge the validity 
of the system, treat them with respect, never go for their jugular, join 
industry associations who tread softly and quietly and make-nice lest anyone in 
government become offended. Just like always. I’m sure one day they’ll all see 
the light and stop kicking the internet industry in the face.



One day.



  - mark









On Apr 4, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Serge Burjak <sbur...@systech.com.au 
<mailto:sbur...@systech.com.au> > wrote:



Very scary section



(4) The eSafety Commissioner is not required to observe any requirements of 
procedural fairness in relation to the issue of a 3 notice under subsection (1).



On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 11:22, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com 
<mailto:paulwilkins...@gmail.com> > wrote:

https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/s1201_first-senate/toc_pdf/1908121.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf



On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 10:57, Simon Sharwood <si...@jargonmaster.com 
<mailto:si...@jargonmaster.com> > wrote:

So I was in a thing yesterday with a very senior government relations person 
from one of the top 3 clouds. And they'd been advised the legislation had very 
vague wording, meant that they and all cloud services had potential liability.

At least one other major cloud's lobbyists had the same advice. Both tried to 
alert the government to the fact they'd cast the net far wider than anticipated.





So some hurried back-channel efforts were made to change the wording of the 
legislation to be more specific about social media.



Those changes weren't made and this government relations pro was flabbergasted 
at the haste and lack of consultation.



He said it just makes it easier for people to fling FUD at the whole local 
industry.





On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Narelle Clark <narel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:narel...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Just to clarify - it was introduced to the Senate and approved last night. It 
will hit the House of Reps today.



And the PJCIS hasn't even seen it.



This is flawed in so many ways, and it will affect our industry massively. 



Why should anyone build a content related business here? How do we protect 
staff and customers from malicious posting in order to invoke this legislation?



Narelle



On Thu, 4 Apr. 2019, 10:43 am Narelle Clark, <narel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:narel...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Parliament has just rushed through more impractical legislation to jail 
executives of content providers (that would be all of us) if vile content is 
not removed "expeditiously".



Here is some reaction to it...



Overview:  
<https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-04-04/facebook-youtube-social-media-laws-rushed-and-flawed-critics-say/10965812>
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-04-04/facebook-youtube-social-media-laws-rushed-and-flawed-critics-say/10965812



Law Council:   
<https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/start-ups-concerned-about-new-social-media-laws/10969282>
 
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/start-ups-concerned-about-new-social-media-laws/10969282



Scott Farquar:  
<https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/rushed-social-media-legislation-is-seriously-flawed/10969482>
 
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/rushed-social-media-legislation-is-seriously-flawed/10969482





Narelle

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