Stephane Chazelas <[email protected]> wrote:

...
> And maybe in 2032, we'll have that misbehaviour introduced in
> the 70s fixed everywhere at last. See how it took decades (even
> decades after POSIX specified it) for "rm -rf .*" to be safe
> (and "rm -rf dir/.*" is still not safe in some even certified
> implementations), how many awk implementations still don't
> support  regexp interval operators...

And because I do not like to wait until that time, I believe that there is a 
need to be able to check whether a shell hides "." and ".." from the glob
results.

See also the note from Harald van Dijk.

In the 1980s (before there has been POSIX), a new concept in UNIX usually has
been either copied in versions from other companies within a few years or that
idea in general was not accepted.

Now, in a time where things should even be easier because we have OpenSource, 
it seems to become harder and harder to get an agreement within a reasonable 
amount of time.

Without proposals from the OpenGroup, it seems that usable progress will not 
happen in certain areas because the authors of the various implementations use 
incompatible design for enhancements. 

Jörg

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