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Minutes of the 30th April 2020 Teleconference     Austin-1024 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 30th April 2020


Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR 
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, Open Group OR
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev. 


* General news 

The etherpad was unavailable today. Andrew has sent an email to Richard.


* Outstanding actions

(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)

Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR 
list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.

Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 1216 - Eric to ask if The Open Group is willing to sponsor this interface, 
referencing bug note 4478.


* Current Business

Andrew started interpretations on items:
0001317: System Interfaces Require fork handlers to be called in certain 
conditions
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1317

0001328: System Interface    posix_spawn lacks use of restrict
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1328


Andrew applied fixes to the following onlinepubs items and closed them:
0001322: Bizarre HTML rendering for an -o option on ls page 
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1322

0001326: Superfluous punctuations 
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1326

0001335: Missing newline or BR element on fstatat() page 
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1335


Regular items:

0001304: Align c99 -o with reality, the standard should not be more restrictive 
than implementations  Accepted as marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1304

This item was reopened.

Reopening because the changes in Note: 0004715 clash with the -o
changes in bug 0001294. Also, a needed change to the DESCRIPTION
was missed.

New proposed changes...

On page 2542 line 82232 section c99, change:

    If the -c option is specified, for all pathname operands

to:

    If the -c option is specified and the -o option is not specified,
    for all pathname operands


On page 2543 line 82297-82298 section c99, after applying bug 1294 change:

    Name the output file to be produced. If the -o option is present
    with -c or -E, the result is unspecified.

to:

    Name the output file to be produced. If the -o option is present
    with -E, or with -c and more than one input file, the result
    is unspecified.

    When creating a single object file (by using -c with a single
    input file), use the pathname outfile, instead of the default
    file.o, for the object file produced.


Add the following new paragraphs to Rationale after P2551, L82609:

    <tt>c99 -c -o ...</tt> is frequently used to directly place the
    .o file into an alternative directory without a need to separately
    rename the output file. This helps to support concurrent
    compilations and out of tree builds.

    Some implementations allow -c -o directory to produce
    directory/file.o even when there is more than one input file;
    however, portable applications using -c with -o must compile
    only one file at a time and must specify the final destination
    filename rather than a directory.


0001330: Remove some of the OB shaded text  Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1330

0001327: flags should be ai_flags.  Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1327

0001331: pax atime and mtime keyword descriptions should refer to st_atim and 
st_mtim  Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1331

0001328: posix_spawn lacks use of restrict  Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1328

0001321: exit status for false should be 1-125  Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1321


Gettext draft.

The gettext draft and discussion is at
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft

We will continue this on the next call.


Next Steps 
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May 4 2020 (Monday)
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