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Enclosed are the minutes from the teleconference held yesterday
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 14th September 2020 Teleconference Austin-1063 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 15th September 2020
Attendees:
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Richard Hansen
Apologies:
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Tom Thompson, IEEE
* General news
A reminder that we plan to switch the Etherpad authentication to
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We plan to switch to this updated method most likely on 17 Sep 2020.
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If you are having issues please contact Andrew.
* Outstanding actions
(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)
Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR
list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.
Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
* Current Business
Bug 0000697: Adding of a getdirentries() function
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=697
This has a separate etherpad page. https://posix.rhansen.org/p/bug697
We will continue after the Issue 8 draft 1 bug resolution
Bug #1364: use of noclobber with files in /tmp Accept as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1364
On page 2287 line 73900 section 2.7.2, and
page 3587 line 124071 section C.2.7.2, add to the "Notes to Reviewers":
If option 2 is adopted in a future draft, note that the change
from https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1364 [^] will
need to be reapplied to the option 2 text.
On page 2287 line 73909 section 2.7.2, change:
Performing these operations atomically ensures that the creation
of lock files and unique (often temporary) files is reliable.
to:
Performing these operations atomically ensures that the creation
of lock files and unique (often temporary) files is reliable,
with important caveats detailed in [xref to XRAT C.2.7.2].
On page 3588 line 124127 section C.2.7.2, change:
The standard developers consider this to be of less importance
than ensuring that the creation of lock files is reliable.
to:
The standard developers consider reliable lock creation to be
more important than the creation of symbolic link targets.
Creation of lock files and unique (often temporary) files with
noclobber set is only reliable provided neither non-regular
files nor symbolic links to non-regular files exist or are
created in the same directory with the same names, and no other
processes delete the files while still in use. If a directory
such as /tmp is used for lock files, then another process could
accidentally or maliciously create a FIFO (or a special file,
given sufficient privilege) with the same name, causing multiple
processes to simultaneously open the same lock file instead of
one succeeding and the others failing.
Bug #1365: rm -v description implies only operands are reported Accept
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1365
Bug #1366: Out of date rationale for XSI definition Accept
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1366
Bug #1369: COLUMNS and LINES rationale Accept
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1369
Bug #1370: Where change history starts OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1370
This was left open to get Andrew's view (He is happy with retaining Issue 5 in
the CH)
Proposed change:
On page 3433 line 117421 (XRAT B.1.1) change:
The CHANGE HISTORY section for each entry details the technical
changes that have been made to that entry from Issue 5. Changes
between earlier versions of the base document and Issue 5 are
not included.
to:
The CHANGE HISTORY section for each entry details the technical
changes that have been made in Issue 5 and later. Changes made
before Issue 5 are not included.
On page 3555 line 122714 (XRAT C.1.1) change:
The CHANGE HISTORY section for each utility describes technical
changes made to that utility from Issue 5. Changes between
earlier versions of the base document and Issue 5 are not
included.
to:
The CHANGE HISTORY section for each utility describes technical
changes made to that utility in Issue 5 and later. Changes made
before Issue 5 are not included.
Bug #1383: Make "Application Usage" less confusing. OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1383
We started on this item and will return to it on the next call.
Gettext draft.
We will return to this on a future call.
The gettext draft in the etherpad is at
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split
Next Steps
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September 17th 2020 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.
September 21st 2020 (Monday)
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