2021-06-28 12:06:34 +0100, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group:
[...]
> > It has been tradition, for a very long time, for writes on stdout to
> > have errors ignored - particularly in a case like this, where because
> > of the redirection, stdout is probably buffered, and not a lot is
> > written, so the actual write that encounters the error most likely
> > happens during exit() processing (flushing stdio buffers).
> 
> You are talking about pre-POSIX tradition.  The rules in POSIX.2 should
> have put an end to that ancient dodgy behaviour when systems were
> updated to conform to POSIX.
[...]

I'd argue that if POSIX wanted that to change, it should have
made it a lot clearer / more explicit.

On Solaris 11 (certified as compliant):

$ /bin/sh -c 'pwd; echo "$?" >&2' >&-
0
/export/home/chazelas

pwd (here ksh93 builtin) returns success, the working directory
printed upon exit as stdout was somewhat reopened (that's more
of a bug though).

$ /usr/xpg4/bin/sh -c 'pwd; echo "$?" >&2' >&-
0
$ /usr/xpg4/bin/grep root /etc/passwd >&-; echo "$?"
0


(same for echo, printf...)

-- 
Stephane

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