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Enclosed are the minutes of today’s meeting
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Andrew
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Minutes of the 15th August 2024 Teleconference Austin-1423 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 15th August 2024
Attendees:
Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Andrew Rivera
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Apologies
Tom Thompson, IEEE
Eric Ackermann, CISPA
* General news
A reminder that we have agreed there will be no Monday meetings for a while.
Please note that the 22nd August call is setup to use a different webex bridge
as Andrew is out on vacation.
We discussed the draft response to the ISO editorial comments.
We agreed that they can now be submitted to ISO to see what their response is.
A copy has been added to the document register as Austin/1422.
We will discuss with Tom the IEEE PSDO process as a possibility for
an alternative approvals path if the document gets rejected at this
late stage by the ISO editors.
* Current Business
Bug 1845: Status of the thread-safety of exit is confusing OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1845
This is still open for feedback on the proposal.
Bug 1847: dladdr()'s second argument should be Dl_info*, not Dl_info_t*
Accepted as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1847
This item is tagged for TC1-2024.
An interpretation is required.
Interpretation response:
The standard states that <dlfcn.h> defines Dl_info_t and does not
define Dl_info, and conforming implementations must conform to this.
However, concerns have been raised about this which are being
referred to the sponsor.
Rationale:
There is existing application code that uses Dl_info_t and existing
code that uses Dl_info. To enable both to be ported to a
standard-conforming environment with minimal change, the standard
should define both types.
Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):
After page 238 line 8393 section <dlfcn.h>, add:
<blockquote>The <b><dlfcn.h></b> header shall define the
<b>Dl_info</b> type to be the same type as
<b>Dl_info_t</b>.</blockquote>
On page 238 line 8409 section <dlfcn.h>, change APPLICATION USAGE from "None"
to:
<blockquote>Although this standard requires <b>Dl_info</b> and
<b>Dl_info_t</b> to be defined as synonyms for the same type,
historically many systems only defined <b>Dl_info</b> and did
not define <b>Dl_info_t</b>. Consequently, choosing to use
<b>Dl_info</b> over <b>Dl_info_t</b> may provide better portability
to non-conforming implementations (such as those which conform
to earlier versions of this standard from before <i>dladdr</i>()
was added but which also provide <i>dladdr</i>() as an
extension).</blockquote>
AI: Andrew to start the interpretation review.
Bug 1851: FD_CLOFORK should not be preserved across exec OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1851
We discussed this item. FD_CLOFORK was added based on it already
being in Solaris, AIX, (some)BSD and macOS. We need to check what
the existing behavior is on those systems.
AI: Andrew to try to contact Solaris, other BSD, AIX, and macOS for comments.
Bug 1852: Clarify "$@[:$@:]" (with $# -eq 0) OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1852
We discussed this item and are leaving open for feedback on note 6862.
Next Steps
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Thu 2024-08-22 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) **Different Bridge**
Thu 2024-08-29 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) **Regular Bridge**
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