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Enclosed are the minutes from last weeks meeting
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Minutes of the 27th March 2025 Teleconference    Austin-1450 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        31st March 2025

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Tom Thompson, IEEE

Apologies
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA

We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, adding a meeting
on April 10th.

There is no update on the latest ISO status. Tom will update us
from IEEE (completed after the meeting - basically we are now
waiting on ISO to withdraw the current project).

* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this
issue.  (completed by sending an email to the reflector:
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization 
objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864

AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3.  The action was
completed, but no response received as yet.


Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904
This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting:
    Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded
    to reflect this fact.  Is this what implementation actually do?

Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other implementations
do and some feedback has been received so need to return to this on a future 
call.


* Current Business

We skipped over bug 1913 and will wait for feedback from Chet Ramey.


Bug 1915: clarification of 2.6.5 field splitting of 2.5.2 special parameter $*
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1915
We need the shell authors to decide on this item.
2025-03-27: AI Andrew: Ask shell developers for guidance on requirements.


Bug 1916: termios: the speed_t interfaces are inadequate
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1916
Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

We agree that this is a shortcoming in the standard.  But the
standard does not generally invent requirements for new interfaces.
But additional baud rates are defined by some implementations and
could be added to <termios.h>.  The following additions are all
supported by BSD, GNU, and Solaris:
    B57600, B115200, B230400, B460800, and B921600
so we should be able to add these in Issue 9.


Bug 0001917: formatting error for uuencode historical algorithm code snippet
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1917

This has been fixed by the editors, and will be closed when the download 
bundles are next updated.

Next Steps 
We will start on bug 1913 next time.

The next calls are on
    Thu 2025-04-03 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
    Thu 2025-04-10 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)


Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:

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