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Enclosed are the minutes of this weeks call
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Minutes of the 12th June 2025 Teleconference    Austin-1459 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        14th June 2025

Attendees:
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group 
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group
    Mark Brown
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR

Apologies
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR

* General business

We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next meeting is June 19th.

Andrew noted that there was no new status update on the IEEE PSDO process.

* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this
issue.  (completed by sending an email to the reflector:
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization 
objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864

AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3.  The action was
completed, but no response received as yet.


Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904
This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting:
    Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded
    to reflect this fact.  Is this what implementation actually do?

Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other
implementations do and some feedback has been received so need to
return to this on a future call.


* Current Business


Bug 1926: Nobody has mistaken bytes for bits when deciding value for 
GETENTROPY_MAX do we?
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1926
Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag

Change Page 1119 Line 38387 from:
    A successful call to getentropy( ) shall always provide the
    requested number of bytes of entropy.

To:
    A successful call to getentropy( ) shall always provide the
    requested number of random bytes.


Bug 1927: Add sponge utility  
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1927

This item was discussed at length with consensus leaning towards a rejection.
This will be continued at the next meeting.



Next Steps

We will start on bug 1927 next time 

The next calls are on
    Thu 2025-06-19 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)


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