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Enclosed are the minutes of this weeks meeting
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Andrew
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Minutes of the 28th August 2025 Teleconference Austin-1467 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 30th August 2025
Attendees:
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Eric Ackermann, CISPA
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Mark Brown
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group
* General business
We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next meeting
is September 11th.
On progress of the standard through the PSDO process Andrew reported
that ISO had requested an A4 copy of the standard from IEEE. (This
is just a paper size change and does not impact layout)
* Carried Forward
Bug 1927: Add sponge utility
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1927
[Action to Eric B] Start a 30-day request for comments on whether The Open
Group should sponsor the addition of this interface.
glibc realloc() behavior
[Action to Eric B] - respond to the thread and invite Alejandro to
open a bug against POSIX if we still need to address wording issues
Update 2025-06-26: discussion on mailing lists is still ongoing;
EricB or Alejandro will open a bug soon
* New Business
EricB provided an update on the glibc realloc() behavior.
Update 2025-08-28:
The WG14 meeting this week discussed Alejandro's proposal:
https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3621.txt
2 straw polls were taken for direction for C2Y:
- should C2Y remove the C23 undefined behavior of realloc on size 0 and
replace it with tighter semantics to always attempt allocation on size 0,
returning NULL only on allocation failure (no consensus)
- should C2Y add a new interface intended to replace realloc, where
applications that want to avoid UB can easily opt in to the replacement instead
of realloc (strong consensus, requires Alejandro to revise his paper before the
next WG14 meeting)
Bug 1939: find: -perm: add / modifier
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1939
Accepted as marked, resolved, issue9 tag
On page 2942, line 98242-3, change
Otherwise, if mode is prefixed by a <hyphen-minus>, the primary
shall evaluate as true if at least all the bits in the resulting
template are set in the file permission bits.
to
Otherwise, if mode is prefixed by a <hyphen-minus>, the primary
shall evaluate as true if at least all the bits in the resulting
template are set in the file permission bits; if it is prefixed
by a <slash>, the primary shall evaluate to true of any of the
bits are set.
On page 2942, line 98247-9, change
if onum is prefixed by a <hyphen-minus>, the primary shall
evaluate as true if at least all of the bits specified in onum
are set. In both cases, the behavior is unspecified when onum
exceeds 07777.
to
if onum is prefixed by a <hyphen-minus>, the primary shall
evaluate as true if at least all of the bits specified in onum
are set; if it is prefixed by a <slash>, the primary shall
evaluate to true of any of the bits are set. In all three cases,
the behavior is unspecified when onum exceeds 07777.
Bug 1940: ed should ignore (or handle) SIGPIPE
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1940
Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag
Before Issue 8 page 2816 line 93355 section ed (ASYNCHRONOUS EVENTS), insert:
SIGPIPE
The behavior is unspecified.
* Next Steps
We will start on bug 1616 if no new bugs are submitted before
the next meeting.
We can also return to Bug 1913.
The next call is on
Thu 2025-09-11 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
The calls are for 90 minutes
Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)
Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.
Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net
An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd
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for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts.
Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)
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