I agree it isn't ideal.  I think we could just remove 'in a broad sense'.
Or change the last phrase to 'in general'.

Deb

On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 1:59 AM Valery Smyslov <s...@elvis.ru> wrote:

> Hi Sandy,
>
> after re-reading the latest changes I realized that in the text I proposed
> (Section 3):
>
>    Given this updated definition, Transform Type 5 in the "Transform
>    Type Values" registry [IKEV2-IANA] has been renamed from "Extended
>    Sequence Numbers (ESN)" to "Sequence Numbers (SN)" in the sense that
>    it defines the properties of the sequence numbers in a broad sense.
>
> the word "sense" is used twice in a single sentence. In my native language
> (Russian) this is considered as a bad style and authors are
> advised to avoid it whenever possible. I'm not so sure about English,
> but if the rules are similar, then perhaps the text should be re-phrased.
>
> I rely on your opinion whether the current text is acceptable from style
> point of view.
> If it is problematic, then perhaps you can advise how to avoid the double
> use of "sense" here.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Valery.
>
> > Hi Valery and Deb*,
> >
> > *Deb, thank you for your review.  We have noted your approval on the
> AUTH48
> > page <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9827>.
> >
> > Valery, we have updated the document as described — thank you for
> catching
> > the typo!  As we believe the content is stable, we will ask IANA to
> update their
> > registry notes to match the edited text in this document.
> >
> > Note that we have not yet marked your approval.  We will check in for a
> final
> > approval once draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2 is also in AUTH48 and we have
> > updated the reference.
> >
> > The current files are available here:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.txt
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.pdf
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.xml
> >
> > Diffs of most recent updates only:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-lastdiff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-lastrfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >
> > AUTH48 diffs:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-auth48diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-auth48rfcdiff.html (side
> by side)
> >
> > Comprehensive diffs:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-rfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >
> >
> > Please let us know if you have any questions or if any further updates
> are
> > needed.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Sandy Ginoza
> > RFC Production Center
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 8, 2025, at 8:19 AM, Valery Smyslov <s...@elvis.ru> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sandy,
> > >
> > > please, see inline.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 8, 2025 5:23 PM
> > >> To: Valery Smyslov <s...@elvis.ru>; Deb Cooley <debcool...@gmail.com>
> > >> Cc: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; ipsecme-...@ietf.org;
> > >> ipsecme- cha...@ietf.org; Tero Kivinen <kivi...@iki.fi>;
> > >> auth48archive <auth48archive@rfc- editor.org>
> > >> Subject: [***SPAM***] [***SPAM***] [AD - Deb] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be
> > >> 9827 <draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-rename-esn-05> for your review
> > >>
> > >> Hi Valery and Deb*,
> > >>
> > >> *Deb, please review the change to the first bullet in Section 3 and
> > >> let us know if you approve.  This update can be viewed in the AUTH48
> diff
> > files (see below).
> > >>
> > >> Valery, thank you for your review and for the explanations you
> > >> provided.  The current files are available here:
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.xml
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.txt
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.pdf
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827.html
> > >>
> > >> AUTH48 diffs (diffs since the document entered AUTH48):
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-auth48diff.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-auth48rfcdiff.html (side
> > >> by side)
> > >>
> > >> Comprehensive diffs:
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-diff.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-rfcdiff.html (side by
> > >> side)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A few notes:
> > >>
> > >> a) During IETF, we believe you mentioned double-checking potential
> > >> changes for the IANA registries set up by the docs in
> > >> https://www.rfc- editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C532.  We believe
> > >> the IANA-related text in this document aligns with the IANA registry,
> > >> but please review and let us know if any updates are needed.
> > >
> > > Yes, I double-checked the IANA-related text in the draft and the text
> in the
> > registry and they match.
> > > The only difference I found is the use of "the" articles in the notes,
> which I
> > mentioned in item 7.
> > >
> > >> b) We have added a note to the AUTH48 page that this document should
> > >> be published together with draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2.  The reference
> > >> will be updated once that document enters AUTH48.
> > >
> > > Got it, thank you.
> > >
> > >> c) Regarding item 5 below, please note that we did not make any
> > >> updates, as we don’t think the “implied meaning” is needed based on
> > >> your explanation. However, please let us know if you prefer the NEW
> text
> > you provided:
> > >>
> > >>> NEW:
> > >>> Given this updated definition, Transform Type 5 in the "Transform
> > >>> Type Values" registry [IKEV2-IANA] has been renamed from "Extended
> > >>> Sequence Numbers (ESN)" to "Sequence Numbers (SN)" with the implied
> > >>> meaning, that it defines the properties of the sequence numbers in a
> > broad sense.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is it better with regard to readability?
> > >
> > > I still think that clarification is helpful. Perhaps:
> > >
> > > NEW:
> > >  Given this updated definition, Transform Type 5 in the "Transform
> > > Type  Values" registry [IKEV2-IANA] has been renamed from "Extended
> > > Sequence  Numbers (ESN)" to "Sequence Numbers (SN)" in the sense,
> > > that it defines the properties of the sequence numbers in a broad
> sense.
> > >
> > > The purpose of this clarification is to draw readers' attention, that
> > > while the new name is very similar to the old one (only the word
> > > "Extended" is removed), the meaning is completely different -
> > > previously this transform simply defined whether Extended Sequence
> > > Numbers are on or off, and now it defines a set of sequence numbers
> > properties, that cannot be reduced to a binary switch.
> > >
> > >> d) Regarding the updates related to item 7, we will ask IANA to
> > >> update their registry once AUTH48 completes and we are certain the
> text
> > are stable.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > >> Please review and let us know if any additional updates are needed.
> > >
> > > The text in the first bullet of Section 3 is good, but I wonder if
> > > this is not a typo:
> > >
> > >     "Sequence numbers" in this definition are not necessarily the
> > >      content of the Sequence Number field in the IPsec packets; they
> > >      may also be some logical entities (e.g., counters) that could be
> > >      constructed take some information that is not transmitted on the
> > >                         ^^^^^
> > >      wire into account.
> > >
> > > I apologize in advance if this is not a typo and is grammatically
> > > correct, but should not it be "taking" instead of "take".
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Valery.
> > >
> > >> Thank you,
> > >> RFC Editor/sg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Aug 6, 2025, at 7:49 AM, Valery Smyslov <s...@elvis.ru> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Sandy,
> > >>>
> > >>> one more issue I came across. The title currently contains incorrect
> > >>> transform
> > >> type name:
> > >>>
> > >>> OLD:
> > >>> Renaming the Extended Sequence Number (ESN) Transform Type in the
> > >>>           Internet Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2)
> > >>>
> > >>> NEW:
> > >>> Renaming the Extended Sequence Numbers (ESN) Transform Type in the
> > >>>           Internet Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2)
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Valery.
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Valery Smyslov <s...@elvis.ru>
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 6:13 PM
> > >>>> To: 'Sandy Ginoza' <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> > >>>> Cc: 'RFC Editor' <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>;
> > >>>> 'ipsecme-...@ietf.org' <ipsecme- a...@ietf.org>;
> > >>>> 'ipsecme-cha...@ietf.org' <ipsecme-cha...@ietf.org>; '
> kivi...@iki.fi'
> > <kivi...@iki.fi>; 'debcool...@gmail.com'
> > >>>> <debcool...@gmail.com>; 'auth48archive@rfc-editor.org'
> > >>>> <auth48archive@rfc- editor.org>
> > >>>> Subject: RE: [***SPAM***] [***SPAM***] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9827
> > >>>> <draft-
> > >> ietf-
> > >>>> ipsecme-ikev2-rename-esn-05> for your review
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Sandy,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> please find my answers inline.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> With regard to the publication process. I understand, that this
> > >>>> draft and
> > >>>> draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-22 are parts of the C532 cluster, but
> > >>>> since there is no normative reference of
> > >>>> draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-22 from this draft, then this draft can
> be
> > published before draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-22.
> > >>>> On the other hand, there is an informative reference from this
> > >>>> draft to draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-22 and I believe that for
> > >>>> readers it is better if the target of this reference is RFC rather
> than I-D.
> > >>>> And since draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-22 is about to enter active
> > >>>> editing state and hopefully be ready to be published soon, I think
> > >>>> that it makes sense to delay publication of this draft so that both
> > >>>> drafts are
> > >> published at
> > >>>> the same time,
> > >>>> and each of them reference the other as an RFC (and not as an I-D).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Valery,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We understand about the timing — thank you for letting us know.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hope your travels were smooth!  Perhaps we’ll see you next week.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> RFC Editor/sg
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2025, at 1:23 AM, Valery Smyslov <s...@elvis.ru>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Sandy,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> sorry for radio silence. I did receive the AUTH48 message, but it
> > >>>>>> came in bad
> > >>>>> time :-)
> > >>>>>> I was busy with preparations to IETF 123, then was on the way to
> > >>>>>> Madrid and thus had no time to review. I'm afraid I won't be able
> > >>>>>> to do this during
> > >> IETF
> > >>>>> week as well, sorry.
> > >>>>>> Apologize for the delay, I plan to review the AUTH48 changes
> > >>>>>> after IETF 123
> > >>>>> ends.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>> Valery.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>> From: Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> > >>>>>>> Sent: 17 июля 2025 г. 1:09
> > >>>>>>> To: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
> > >>>>>>> Cc: s...@elvis.ru; ipsecme-...@ietf.org;
> > >>>>>>> ipsecme-cha...@ietf.org; kivi...@iki.fi; debcool...@gmail.com;
> > >>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> > >>>>>>> Subject: [***SPAM***] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9827
> > >>>>>>> <draft-ietf-ipsecme-
> > >>>>>>> ikev2-rename-esn-05> for your review
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Valery,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We do not believe we have heard from you regarding the questions
> > below.
> > >>>>>>> Please review and let us know how the items below may be
> resolved.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>> RFC Editor/sg
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2025, at 4:46 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Authors,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> > >>>>>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML
> file.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that
> > >>>>>>>> appear in the title) for use on
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> replay protection
> > >>>> anti-replay
> > >>>> IPsec
> > >>>> ESP
> > >>>> AH
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Is the second paragraph the current definition?
> > >>>>>>>> The first paragraph makes us think the definition is current.
> > >>>>>>>> However, the third paragraph (indicating it needs
> > >>>>>>>> clarification) makes us think it is the old definition.  Please
> > >>>>>>>> consider adding text to indicate whether it is the old or new
> > definition.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Original:
> > >>>>>>>> 3.  Extending the Semantics of Transform Type 5
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This document extends the semantics of transform type 5 in
> > >>>>>>>> IKEv2 to the following definition.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Transform type 5 defines the set of properties of sequence
> > >>>>>>>> numbers of IPsec packets of a given SA when these packets enter
> > the network.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This definition requires some clarifications.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps:
> > >>>>>>>> 3.  Extending the Semantics of Transform Type 5
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This document extends the semantics of Transform Type 5 in
> > >>>>>>>> IKEv2 to be defined as follows:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>   Transform Type 5 defines the set of properties of sequence
> > numbers
> > >>>>>>>>   of IPsec packets of a given SA when these packets enter the
> > network.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The updated definition is clarified as follows:
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The second paragraph is the current (new) definition.
> > >>>> Thus, the proposed text is clearer and I'm fine with it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] We are having trouble parsing this sentence.
> > >>>>>>>> Please provide an update if our suggested text is incorrect.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Original:
> > >>>>>>>> *  By "sequence numbers" here we assume logical entities (like
> > >>>>>>>>   counters) that can be used for replay protection on receiving
> > >>>>>>>>   sides.  In particular, these entities are not necessarily the
> > >>>>>>>>   content of the Sequence Number field in the IPsec packets, but
> > may
> > >>>>>>>>   be constructed using some information, that is not necessaryly
> > >>>>>>>>   transmitted.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps:
> > >>>>>>>> *  The use of "sequence numbers" implies that logical entities
> (like
> > >>>>>>>>   counters) can be used for replay protection on receiving
> > >>>>>>>>   sides.  In particular, these entities are not necessarily the
> > >>>>>>>>   content of the Sequence Number field in the IPsec packets, as
> they
> > >>>>>>>>   may be constructed using some information that is not
> > transmitted.
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I would propose the following text:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> NEW:
> > >>>> *  "Sequence numbers" in this definition are not necessary the
> > >>>>   content of the Sequence Number field in the IPsec packets,
> > >>>>   but may also be some logical entities (e.g., counters) that might
> > >>>>   be constructed taking in account some information that is not
> > >>>> transmitted on
> > >> the
> > >>>> wire.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Feel free to propose better text if this is still not clear or
> grammatically
> > incorrect.
> > >>>> The point is that while we have "Sequence Number" field in the
> > >>>> IPsec packets, the "sequence numbers" we are talking about are not
> > >>>> necessary the content of this field, but may be constructed using
> > additional sources.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] We have updated this sentence as described
> below.
> > >>>>>>>> Please let us know if any corrections are needed.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Original:
> > >>>>>>>> *  The properties are interpreted as a characteristic of IPsec
> SA
> > >>>>>>>>   packets, and not as a result of a sender actions.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Current:
> > >>>>>>>> *  The properties are interpreted as characteristics of IPsec SA
> > >>>>>>>>   packets rather than the results of sender actions.
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This change is OK.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] For readability, we have updated the sentence
> > >>>>>>>> as shown below.  Please let us know if any corrections are
> > >>>>>>>> needed.  In addition, please consider whether the abbreviated
> > >>>>>>>> form of "SN" should be plural (i.e., Sequence Numbers (SNs) -
> > >>>>>>>> we recognize that ESN was singular even though "Numbers" was
> > plural).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Original:
> > >>>>>>>> Given this definition, transform type 5 in the IANA registries
> > >>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>> IKEv2 [IKEV2-IANA] is renamed from "Extended Sequence Numbers
> > >>>> (ESN)"
> > >>>>>>>> to "Sequence Numbers (SN)" with the meaning, that it defines
> > >>>>>>>> the properties the sequence numbers would have.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Current:
> > >>>>>>>> Given this updated definition, Transform Type 5 in the
> > >>>>>>>> "Transform Type Values" registry [IKEV2-IANA] has been renamed
> > >>>>>>>> from "Extended
> > >>>> Sequence
> > >>>>>>>> Numbers (ESN)" to "Sequence Numbers (SN)".
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I still believe that the clarification is helpful. In other words,
> > >>>> the name of this Transform Type is too short to be absolutely clear.
> > >>>> Before IETF LC the proposed new name for this transform type was
> > >>>> "Sequence Numbers Properties (SNP)", which would be clearer, but
> > >>>> apparently was grammatically incorrect. Another proposed name was
> > >>>> "Properties of Sequence Numbers (PSN)", but eventually it was
> > >>>> decided to use simple "Sequence Numbers (SN)" with a clarification
> > >>>> what this name means. I also don't think that abbreviation in
> > >>>> plural form (SNs) is justified, since this would break the rule
> > >>>> that all abbreviation is always in all-capital letters.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thus, my preference is:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> NEW:
> > >>>> Given this updated definition, Transform Type 5 in the "Transform
> > >>>> Type Values" registry [IKEV2-IANA] has been renamed from "Extended
> > >>>> Sequence Numbers (ESN)" to "Sequence Numbers (SN)" with the implied
> > >>>> meaning, that it defines the properties of the sequence numbers in a
> > broad sense.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is it better with regard to readability?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] "their monotonic increase" is not easily
> > >>>>>>>> parsed. May we update as follows for readability?
> > >>>>>>>> Note that this text appears in the definitions for values 0 and
> 1.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Original:
> > >>>>>>>>   They can also be used with protocols that rely
> > >>>>>>>>   on sequence numbers uniqueness (like [RFC8750]) or their
> > monotonic
> > >>>>>>>>   increase (like [RFC9347]).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps:
> > >>>>>>>>   They can also be used with protocols that rely
> > >>>>>>>>   on sequence numbers uniqueness (e.g., [RFC8750]) or
> > monotonically
> > >>>>>>>>   increasing sequence numbers (e.g., [RFC9347]).
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This change is good.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Note that we have updated the IANA
> > >>>>>>>> Considerations to reduce redundancy throughout.  Please review
> > >>>>>>>> carefully and let us know if any updates are needed.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You can review the changes by looking through a diff of the
> > >>>>>>>> IANA Considerations section:
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-diff.html
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9827-rfcdiff.html
> > >>>>>>>> (side-by-side view)
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> These changes are generally OK. I noticed that the text of the
> > >>>> notes in this section to be added to IANA registries now mismatches
> > >>>> the notes that are actually added as a result of IANA actions made
> > >>>> when this I-D was sent to the RFC Editor (with regard of the
> > >>>> articles). I think that this can be sorted out with IANA.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology
> > >>>>>>>> appears to be used inconsistently. We updated to use the form
> > >>>>>>>> on the left to align with RFC 7296.  Please let us know any
> > objections.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Transform Type vs transform type Transform ID vs transform ID
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm OK with this change, thank you.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion
> > >>>>>>>> of the online Style Guide
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> > >>>>>>>> e> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this
> > >>>>>>>> nature typically result in more precise language, which is
> > >>>>>>>> helpful for readers.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but
> > >>>>>>>> this should still be reviewed as a best practice.
> > >>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I re-read the draft and I believe that it satisfies the "Inclusive
> Language"
> > >>>> requirements.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> One more points I found.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 10) [EESP] should reference draft-ietf-ipsecme-eesp instead of
> > >>>> draft-klassert- ipsecme-eesp (it was adopted as WG document a while
> > >>>> ago).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Valery.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thank you.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> RFC Editor
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2025, at 4:43 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> *****IMPORTANT*****
> > >>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>> RFC 9827 (draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-rename-esn-05)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Title            : Renaming Extended Sequence Number (ESN)
> Transform
> > >>>> Type
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> the Internet Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2)
> > >>>>>>>> Author(s)        : V. Smyslov
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