Hi Ben,

Thank you for your review.  We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 page 
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9882>.  We have received all of the 
needed approvals and will continue with publication shortly.

Thank you,
Sandy Ginoza
RFC Production Center



> On Oct 27, 2025, at 1:23 AM, Ben S3 <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> OFFICIAL
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> I approve this for publication.
> 
> Thanks!
> Ben
> 
> 
> OFFICIAL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>
> Sent: 25 October 2025 02:45
> To: Ben S3 <[email protected]>
> Cc: Adam R <[email protected]>; Daniel Van Geest 
> <[email protected]>; RFC Editor 
> <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected]; Deb Cooley <[email protected]>; Russ Housley 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07> for your 
> review
> 
> [You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn why this 
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> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> Thank you for your review.  We have updated the document as described below 
> and posted the revised files here:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.xml
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.txt
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.pdf
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.html
> 
> Diffs highlighting the changes described below:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-lastdiff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
> AUTH48 diffs:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-auth48diff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
> Comprehensive diffs:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-diff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
> Please review and let us know if any further updates are needed or if you 
> approve the RFC for publication.
> 
> Thank you,
> Sandy Ginoza
> RFC Production Center
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 4:57+IC8-AM, Ben S3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> OFFICIAL
>> 
>> Hi Sandy,
>> 
>> Apologies, I've only just returned from leave.
>> 
>> I've given the draft a final full read and spotted four small changes to be 
>> made, listed below. Sorry for not noticing these earlier! Hopefully the 
>> formatting works, I+IBk-m doing this on my phone.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>> 
>> Section 1:
>> 
>> OLD:
>> This document specifies the use of the ML-DSA in the CMS at three security 
>> levels:
>> 
>> NEW:
>> This document specifies the use of ML-DSA in the CMS at three security 
>> levels:
>> 
>> 
>> Section 3.1:
>> 
>> OLD:
>> and these algorithms support both a "pure" and "pre-hash" mode.
>> 
>> NEW:
>> and these algorithms support both a "pure" and a "pre-hash" mode.
>> 
>> 
>> Section 4:
>> 
>> OLD:
>> ML-DSA depends on high quality random numbers that are suitable for use in 
>> cryptography.
>> 
>> NEW:
>> ML-DSA depends on high-quality random numbers that are suitable for use in 
>> cryptography.
>> 
>> OLD:
>> Side channel attacks and fault attacks against ML-DSA are an active
>> area of research
>> 
>> NEW:
>> Side-channel attacks and fault attacks against ML-DSA are an active
>> area of research
>> 
>> OFFICIAL
>> From: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2025 3:56:05 PM
>> To: Adam R <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Daniel Van Geest <[email protected]>; Ben S3 
>> <[email protected]>; RFC Editor <[email protected]>; 
>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>> <[email protected]>; Deb Cooley <[email protected]>; Russ 
>> Housley <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07> for 
>> your review   [You don't often get email from [email protected]. 
>> Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification 
>> ]
>> 
>> Hi Daniel and Adam,
>> 
>> Thank you for your replies.  We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 
>> status page <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9882>.  We will continue 
>> with publication once we have received approval from Ben as well.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Sandy Ginoza
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2025, at 2:59+IC8-AM, Adam R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also approve this for publication.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> From: Daniel Van Geest <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2025 09:31
>>> To: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>; Adam R
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Ben S3 <[email protected]>; RFC Editor
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>;
>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; Deb
>>> Cooley <[email protected]>; Russ Housley <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07>
>>> for your review
>>> 
>>> I approve this for publication.
>>> Daniel
>>> On 2025-10-18 1:24 a.m., Sandy Ginoza wrote:
>>> Hi Adam,
>>> 
>>> Apologies for the delay.  We have updated the document and posted the 
>>> revised files here:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.xml
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.txt
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.pdf
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9882.html&data=05%7C02%7Cben.s3%40nc
>>> sc.gov.uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa5744ece1474ea2d73
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>>> 
>>> Diffs highlighting the most recent udpates only:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-lastdiff.html
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9882-lastrfcdiff.html&data=05%7C02%7
>>> Cben.s3%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa5744e
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>>> 
>>> AUTH48 diffs:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-auth48diff.html
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9882-auth48rfcdiff.html&data=05%7C02
>>> %7Cben.s3%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa574
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>>> 
>>> Comprehensive diffs:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-diff.html
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9882-rfcdiff.html&data=05%7C02%7Cben
>>> .s3%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa5744ece14
>>> 74ea2d734f46dda64a1%7C0%7C0%7C638969535967523815%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
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>>> 
>>> Please review and let us know if any updates are needed or if you approve 
>>> the RFC for publication.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Sandy Ginoza
>>> RFC Production Center
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2025, at 3:12+IC8-AM, Adam R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One other small correction courtesy of Sean Turner - the abstract suggests 
>>> the public key syntax is included in the document, but we removed that when 
>>> it was moved to dilithium-certs instead.
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> In addition, the algorithm identifier and public key syntax are provided.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>> In addition, the algorithm identifier syntax is provided.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> From: Adam R <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 16:00
>>> To: Deb Cooley <[email protected]>; Russ Housley
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>; Ben S3
>>> <[email protected]>; RFC Editor <[email protected]>;
>>> [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>;
>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07>
>>> for your review
>>> 
>>> I did. I expect to approve once that's done, though.
>>> 
>>> I'll note that Daniel's on vacation this week, and Ben's away until the 
>>> 23rd, so I'll be the only author able to approve for a while.
>>> 
>>> From: Deb Cooley <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 15:56
>>> To: Russ Housley <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Adam R <[email protected]>; Sandy Ginoza
>>> <[email protected]>; Ben S3 <[email protected]>; RFC
>>> Editor <[email protected]>;
>>> [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>;
>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07>
>>> for your review
>>> 
>>> And Adam asked for a change?
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 8:08+IC8-AM Russ Housley <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> None of the authors have approved the draft yet.
>>> 
>>> See
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9882&data=05%7C02%7Cben.s3%40ncsc.gov
>>> .uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa5744ece1474ea2d734f46dd
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>>> 02AKBr4OS671drj4%3D&reserved=0
>>> 
>>> Russ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2025, at 7:21+IC8-AM, Deb Cooley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are we waiting on an update?  or approvals by authors?
>>> 
>>> Deb (attempting to not be twitchy)
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 3:44+IC8-PM Adam R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Sandy,
>>> 
>>> Sorry, one last thing I spotted. There's been an "is" added in Section 3.3 
>>> that changes the meaning of the text. The intended meaning is that the 
>>> security strength offered is either the digest algorithm's strength, or the 
>>> strength of the ML-DSA parameter set, depending on which value is lower. 
>>> The text change suggested below to reverts the change and suggests 
>>> alternative text to make this a bit clearer, but of course I'm happy for it 
>>> to be tweaked as is required:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> The overall security strength offered by an ML-DSA signature calculated 
>>> over signed attributes is the floor of the digest algorithm's strength and 
>>> is the strength of the ML-DSA parameter set.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>> The overall security strength offered by an ML-DSA signature calculated 
>>> over signed attributes is constrained by either the digest algorithm's 
>>> strength or the strength of the ML-DSA parameter set, whichever is lower.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, everything looks good to go to me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2025 20:22
>>> To: Adam R <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Ben S3 <[email protected]>; RFC Editor
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>;
>>> Russ Housley <[email protected]>;[email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07>
>>> for your review
>>> 
>>> [You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn
>>> why this is important at
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>>> 
>>> Hi Adam and Ben,
>>> 
>>> The document has been updated as described below.  The current files are 
>>> available here:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.xml
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.txt
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882.pdf
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9882.html&data=05%7C02%7Cben.s3%40nc
>>> sc.gov.uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa5744ece1474ea2d73
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>>> 
>>> AUTH48 diffs:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-auth48diff.html
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
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>>> side)
>>> 
>>> Comprehensive diffs:
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9882-diff.html
>>> 
>>> https://ww/
>>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9882-rfcdiff.html&data=05%7C02%7Cben
>>> .s3%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cc5ce8c95cf0f4aaa41a408de13682dbc%7C14aa5744ece14
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>>> 
>>> Please review and let us if any further updates are needed or if you 
>>> approve the RFC for publication.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Sandy Ginoza
>>> RFC Production Center
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2025, at 8:05+IC8-AM, Adam R 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandy,
>>> 
>>>   +ICI The authors (Ben included) have had a discussion on this and we 
>>> think we can just remove "traditional" entirely; describing the algorithm 
>>> as a "post-quantum" algorithm as we have elsewhere in the document conveys 
>>> the intended meaning.
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> The Module-Lattice-Based Digital Signature Algorithm (ML-DSA) is a digital 
>>> signature algorithm standardised by the US National Institute of Standards 
>>> and Technology (NIST) as part of their post-quantum cryptography 
>>> standardisation process.
>>> It is intended to be secure against both "traditional" cryptographic 
>>> attacks, as well as attacks utilising a quantum computer.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>> The Module-Lattice-Based Digital Signature Algorithm (ML-DSA) is a 
>>> post-quantum digital signature algorithm standardised by the US National 
>>> Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) as part of their post-quantum 
>>> cryptography standardisation process.
>>> 
>>>   +ICI We've discussed with the authors of dilithium-certs and Deb, and are 
>>> content that the meaning of the text is the same in both instances and 
>>> hence no wording changes are required.
>>> 
>>>   +ICI I also think this is fine.
>>> 
>>>   +ICI Base64-encoded examples seem somewhat rare in CMS RFCs, I had a 
>>> quick look at recent examples and I only found RFC 9690. That RFC tags its 
>>> examples as artwork. The examples in question aren't X.509, so I would 
>>> leave them as-is or tag as artwork. If Russ has an opinion (as an author of 
>>> RFC 9690 and many more CMS RFCs), I'd go with that.
>>> 
>>>   +ICI I agree with Ben.
>>> 
>>> I agree with Ben's typo correction for Section 6, and suggest an additional 
>>> change to give that table a title:
>>> OLD:
>>> <table anchor="oid">
>>> <thead>
>>>   <tr>
>>>     <th>Decimal</th>
>>>     <th>Description</th>
>>>     <th>Refernece</th>
>>>   </tr>
>>> </thead>
>>> <tbody>
>>>   <tr>
>>>     <td>83</td>
>>>     <td>id-mod-ml-dsa-2024</td>
>>>     <td>RFC 9882</td>
>>>   </tr>
>>> </tbody>
>>> </table>
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>> <table anchor="oid">
>>> <name>Object Identifier Assignments</name>  <thead>
>>>   <tr>
>>>     <th>Decimal</th>
>>>     <th>Description</th>
>>>     <th>Reference</th>
>>>   </tr>
>>> </thead>
>>> <tbody>
>>>   <tr>
>>>     <td>83</td>
>>>     <td>id-mod-ml-dsa-2024</td>
>>>     <td>RFC 9882</td>
>>>   </tr>
>>> </tbody>
>>> </table>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would suggest one other grammatical change in Section 5:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> If ML-DSA signing is implemented in a hardware device such as the hardware 
>>> security module (HSM) or portable cryptographic token, implementers might 
>>> want to avoid sending the full content to the device for performance 
>>> reasons.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>> If ML-DSA signing is implemented in a hardware device such as a hardware 
>>> security module (HSM) or a portable cryptographic token, implementers might 
>>> want to avoid sending the full content to the device for performance 
>>> reasons.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> From: Ben S3 <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2025 08:15
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Adam R 
>>> <[email protected]>; 
>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>
>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>> <[email protected]>;[email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07> for 
>>> your review
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sandy!
>>> 
>>> To the specific points below:
>>> 
>>> 1) Use of "Traditional" in our draft is intended to mirror the use of 
>>> traditional in RFC 9794. Traditional cryptographic algorithms are meant to 
>>> be secure against traditional cryptographic attacks, whereas PQ algorithms 
>>> are secure against both traditional and quantum attacks. Whilst not 
>>> explicitly defined, the terminology is precise enough that it is fully 
>>> understood in the post-quantum context. I'd therefore leave it as it is.
>>> 
>>> 2) I agree they should be the same, but I think I prefer our wording. I'll 
>>> reach out to the authors of dilithium-certs.
>>> 
>>> 3) Fine by me.
>>> 
>>> 4) These are not X.509 artefacts, so I propose leaving the type attribute 
>>> unset.
>>> 
>>> 5) I've reviewed the guidance - I believe our document has no inclusivity 
>>> concerns.
>>> 
>>> Additional points:
>>> 
>>> Section 6:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>>              +-=========+-====================+-===========+-
>>>              | Decimal | Description        | Refernece |
>>>              +-=========+-====================+-===========+-
>>>              | 83      | id-mod-ml-dsa-2024 | RFC 9882  |
>>>              +----------+---------------------+------------+-
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>>              +-=========+-====================+-===========+-
>>>              | Decimal | Description        | Reference |
>>>              +-=========+-====================+-===========+-
>>>              | 83      | id-mod-ml-dsa-2024 | RFC 9882  |
>>>              +----------+---------------------+------------+-
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: 10 October 2025 00:56
>>> To: Ben S3 <[email protected]>; Adam R <[email protected]>; 
>>> [email protected]
>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9882 <draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07> for 
>>> your review
>>> 
>>> Authors,
>>> 
>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
>>> the following questions, which are also in the source file.
>>> 
>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] We note that "traditional" is in quotes, but please 
>>> consider whether it should be updated for clarity.  The term is ambiguous; 
>>> "tradition" is a subjective term because it is not the same for everyone.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>  It is intended to be secure
>>>  against both "traditional" cryptographic attacks, as well as attacks
>>>  utilising a quantum computer.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] The following was provided in response to the intake form:
>>> 
>>>  This document and draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates use
>>>  the same text for one of the security considerations: "ML-DSA
>>>  depends on high quality random numbers...". That paragraph
>>>  should be kept the same between both documents.
>>> 
>>> Should the paragraphs be identical?  They do not currently match.   Please
>>> review and let us know how you would like to proceed.
>>> 
>>> Currently in RFC-to-be 9881 <draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates>:
>>>  ML-DSA depends on high quality random numbers that are suitable for
>>>  use in cryptography.  The use of inadequate pseudo-random number
>>>  generators (PRNGs) to generate such values can significantly
>>>  undermine various security properties.  For instance, using an
>>>  inadequate PRNG for key generation might allow an attacker to
>>>  efficiently recover the private key by trying a small set of
>>>  possibilities, rather than brute-force searching the whole keyspace.
>>>  The generation of random numbers of a sufficient level of quality for
>>>  use in cryptography is difficult; see Section 3.6.1 of [FIPS204] for
>>>  some additional information.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Thank you.
>>> Sandy Ginoza
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2025, at 4:51+IC8-PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> *****IMPORTANT*****
>>> 
>>> Updated 2025/10/09
>>> 
>>> RFC Author(s):
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>>> Thank you for your cooperation,
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> RFC 9882 (draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa-07)
>>> 
>>> Title            : Use of the ML-DSA Signature Algorithm in the 
>>> Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS)
>>> Author(s)        : B. Salter, A. Raine, D. Van Geest
>>> WG Chair(s)      : Russ Housley, Tim Hollebeek
>>> Area Director(s) : Deb Cooley, Paul Wouters


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