On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 2:37 PM Madison Church <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Paul - We have noted your approvals for the two proposed technical changes.
>
> Nick - Thank you for your reply! We have noted your approval for the
> contents of this document on the AUTH48 status page and implemented your
> requested updates. The diff file was incredibly helpful!
>
> We will wait for confirmation to implement the technical changes.
>

I will implement the technical changes in my copy.

-Ekr


>
> Please review the contents of the document carefully. Contact us with any
> further updates or with your approval of the document’s contents in its
> current form. Once we receive approvals from Christopher, Kazuho, and Eric,
> we will move forward with formatting updates.
>
> For details of the AUTH48 process in kramdown-rfc (including the two-part
> approval process), see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
>
> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
>
> Markdown file:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
>
> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html (diff showing
> AUTH48 changes)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
>
> Markdown diffs:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
>
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849
>
> Thank you,
> Madison Church
> RFC Production Center
>
> > On Jan 14, 2026, at 9:42 AM, Nick Sullivan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello RFC Production Center,
> >
> > I reviewed the currently posted AUTH48 text for RFC-to-be 9849
> > (rfc9849.txt on the RFC Editor authors page). Below are a small set of
> > remaining editorial issues.
> >
> > Two items that are technically non-editorial are already being handled
> > in the TLS WG GitHub repository (issues 656 and 665 / corresponding
> > open PRs). To avoid duplication, I am not requesting those changes
> > here or requesting any expansion of RFC number placeholders (for
> > example RFCYYY1) in this note.
> >
> > A) Typos and minor editorial fixes (no intended technical change)
> >
> > Section 5.1 (Encoding the ClientHelloInner)
> > - Replace “structured defined” with “structure defined”.
> > Section 6.1 (Offering ECH)
> > - Capitalization: “Instead, It MUST …” -> “Instead, it MUST …”.
> > Section 7 (Server Behavior introduction)
> > - Consistency: “back-end server” -> “backend server”.
> > Section 10.8 (Cookies)
> > - Insert missing space: “unencrypted.This” -> “unencrypted. This”.
> > Section 11.3 (ECH Configuration Extension Registry)
> > - Fix grammar in the “Recommended” field description and remove
> > duplicated wording (“value with a value of”).
> >
> > Proposed patch (unified diff against the currently posted rfc9849.txt;
> > excludes items already covered by issues 656 and 665; no RFC
> > placeholder expansions)
> >
> > ```
> > --- rfc9849.txt
> > +++ rfc9849.txt
> > @@ -521,7 +521,7 @@
> > -        structured defined in Section 5.3 of [RFC9147].  This does not
> > +        structure defined in Section 5.3 of [RFC9147].  This does not
> >
> > @@ -675,7 +675,7 @@
> > -            ClientHelloInner.random.  Instead, It MUST generate a fresh
> > +            ClientHelloInner.random.  Instead, it MUST generate a fresh
> >
> > @@ -1129,7 +1129,7 @@
> > -        the client-facing server or as the back-end server.  Depending
> on the
> > +        the client-facing server or as the backend server.  Depending
> on the
> >
> > @@ -1706,7 +1706,7 @@
> > -        unencrypted.This means differences in cookies between backend
> > +        unencrypted. This means differences in cookies between backend
> >
> > @@ -2114,13 +2114,12 @@
> > -   Recommended:  A "Y" or "N" value indicating if the extension is TLS
> > -      WG recommends that the extension be supported.  This column is
> > -      assigned a value of "N" unless explicitly requested.  Adding a
> > -      value with a value of "Y" requires Standards Action [RFC8126].
> > +   Recommended:  A "Y" or "N" value indicating if the TLS Working Group
> > +      recommends that the extension be supported.  This column is
> assigned a
> > +      value of "N" unless explicitly requested.  Adding a value of "Y"
> > +      requires Standards Action [RFC8126].
> > ```
> >
> > GitHub PR: https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/pull/671/files
> >
> > With these changes, the publication is approved by me.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Nick Sullivan
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 12:28 PM Nick Sullivan
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Madison,
> >>
> >> Apologies for the delay, I was intending to do this over the new year
> but didn't get to it. I'll review by end of week.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 10:31 AM Paul Wouters <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> approved (via email and at the PRs listed)
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:49 PM Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Authors, *Paul,
> >>>>
> >>>> Happy new year!
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a friendly reminder that we have yet to hear back from you
> regarding the readiness of this document’s contents before moving forward
> with formatting updates.
> >>>>
> >>>> *Paul - As responsible AD for this document, please review the
> changes below and let us know if you approve:
> >>>> https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/pull/668
> >>>> https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/pull/667
> >>>>
> >>>> For the AUTH48 status page, see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>> Madison Church
> >>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 12:46 PM, Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Eric,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for the followup! We have updated the AUTH48 status page (
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849) and we will wait to hear from
> you once you complete your final content review.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 12:33 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FWIW I think Paul actually just approved this one change, not the
> overall RFC.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have merged this markdown file into the version on GitHub. There
> are two pending
> >>>>>> changes that are technically not just editorial, though I think
> obvious and need Paul's
> >>>>>> approval:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/pull/668
> >>>>>> https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/pull/667
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In parallel, I will also need to give it a final top-to-bottom
> read, which I hope to do in the next
> >>>>>> week or so.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Ekr
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 9:42 AM Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We have marked your approval on the AUTH48 status page (see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wouters <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 11:06, Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Authors, *Paul,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Paul - As responsible AD, please note that we await your
> approval of RFC YYY1 as an Informative Reference (changed from Normative to
> Informative).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> approved
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Authors - This is a friendly reminder that we await approvals
> from each author prior to moving forward with formatting updates.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For details of the AUTH48 process in kramdown-rfc (including the
> two-part approval process), see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Markdown file:
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html (diff
> showing AUTH48 changes)
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html
> (side by side)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Markdown diffs:
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2025, at 10:07 AM, Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Eric, *Paul,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Eric - Thank you for your reply! We weren’t sure if this was
> intentional, so thank you for clarifying. We have moved RFC YYY1 to the
> Informative References section.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Paul - As responsible AD, please let us know if you approve RFC
> YYY1 as an Informative Reference.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please review the contents of the document carefully. Contact us
> with any further updates or with your approval of the document’s contents
> in its current form. We will await approvals from each author prior to
> moving forward with formatting updates.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For details of the AUTH48 process in kramdown-rfc (including the
> two-part approval process), see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Markdown file:
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html (side
> by side)
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html
> (diff showing AUTH48 changes)
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html
> (side by side)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Markdown diffs:
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2025, at 4:38 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Madison,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I believe that the citation to RFCYYY1 should be informative,
> not normative. I corrected that in
> >>>>>>>>>> my version but I guess I forgot to flag it. Paul, co-authors,
> any objections?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -Ekr
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2025 at 2:16 PM Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the updated markdown file! We have incorporated
> your edits into the document. Upon further review, we have also updated the
> term "Shared Mode" to follow the same pattern as "Split Mode" (uppercase on
> first use and in titles, lowercase otherwise). Please let us know any
> objections. Additionally, we will update the WHATWG reference per our
> discussion during formatting. Aside from the updates mentioned, we have no
> further questions/comments at this time.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please review the contents of the document carefully. Contact
> us with any further updates or with your approval of the document’s
> contents in its current form. We will await approvals from each author
> prior to moving forward with formatting updates.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For details of the AUTH48 process in kramdown-rfc (including
> the two-part approval process), see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Markdown file:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html (side
> by side)
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html
> (diff showing AUTH48 changes)
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html
> (side by side)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Markdown diffs:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2025, at 7:12 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is an updated markdown file with the fixed width
> adjustments.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/refs/heads/auth48/rfc9849.md
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Ekr
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 9:49 AM Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 6:23 AM Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply! Please see inline.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2025, at 1:38 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re the questions and comments:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I will send a revised file with the fixed width issues fixed
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Noted!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * As I understand the WHATWG question, there are two distinct
> issues (1) whether to reference a commit and (2) whether to reference
> fragments. I'm OK with referencing a commit like this if that's what you
> agreed with WHATWG, but I read this text as saying not to reference
> fragments unless we ensure that the anchor is permanent
> https://whatwg.org/working-mode#anchors. Have we done so for this one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for clarifying. We are unsure if the current anchor
> [1] is permanent, so we would recommend not using it and using the more
> general one [2]. However, if any other authors put in a request with WHATWG
> to make that anchor permanent, please let us know.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser
> >>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://url.spec.whatwg.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think we are in agreement, then, thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Ekr
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Ekr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 6:58 AM Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Authors,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly weekly reminder that we await answers to
> the followup questions/comments below and your review of the document
> before continuing with the publication process. For details of the AUTH48
> process in kramdown-rfc (including the two-part approval process), see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2025, at 8:34 AM, Madison Church <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply! We have updated the document as
> requested and have two followup items for your review, which can be viewed
> in the AUTH48 thread below or in the updated markdown file marked with
> "rfced".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2025, at 10:33 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Update: I fixed my affiliation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 8:23 PM Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. I am editing this in GitHub. I merged in your
> proposed changes except
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for those I think are inadvisable, which I reverted. I
> answered your questions inline.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find the latest markdown file here (also attached):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/refs/heads/auth48/rfc9849.md
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Ekr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 10:53 AM <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve
> (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the source file.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] References
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) Regarding [WHATWG-IPV4], this reference's date is May
> 2021.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The URL provided resolves to a page with "Last Updated 12
> May 2025".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that WHATWG provides "commit snapshots" of their
> living standards and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are several commit snapshots from May 2021 with the
> latest being from 20
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> May 2021. For example: 20 May 2021
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (
> https://url.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/1b8b8c55eb4bed9f139c9a439fb1c1bf5566b619/#concept-ipv4-parser
> )
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We recommend updating this reference to the most current
> version of the WHATWG
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Standard, replacing the URL with the more general
> URL to the standard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://url.spec.whatwg.org/), and adding a "commit
> snapshot" URL to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WHATWG-IPV4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      WHATWG, "URL - IPv4 Parser", WHATWG Living Standard,
> May
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>       2021, <
> https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EKR: Per MT, WHATWG has asked us not to do that. We should
> leave
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this as-is and change the date to December 2025.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) For context, we reached out to WHATWG in September about
> a format for references to their standards (see:
> https://github.com/whatwg/meta/issues/363). The proposed update below for
> this reference reflects the approved format. It would be helpful for the
> RPC to know what WHATWG has asked authors to not do so that we can reach
> out for clarification and update our recommended citation if necessary.
> With this in mind, let us know if any updates need to be made.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [WHATWG-IPV4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>      WHATWG, "URL - IPv4 Parser", WHATWG Living Standard,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>      <https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>      Commit snapshot:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://url.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/1b8b8c55eb4bed9f139c9a439fb1c1bf5566b619/#concept-ipv4-parser
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the date, we don't recommend using a future date
> for a reference as it doesn't reflect the date for a currently published
> work (unless there is an anticipated update to the WHATWG specification in
> December 2025).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> d) FYI, RFCYYY1 (draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech) will be updated
> during the XML stage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following terms use
> fixed-width font
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inconsistently. Please review these terms and let us know
> how we should update
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or if there are any specific patterns that should be
> followed (e.g.,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed-width font used for field names, variants, etc.).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept_confirmation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cipher_suite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ClientHello
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ClientHelloInner
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ClientHelloOuter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ClientHelloOuterAAD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> config_id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECHClientHello
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECHConfig
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECHConfig.contents.public_name
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECHConfigContents
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECHConfigList
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EncodedClientHelloInner
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inner
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum_name_length
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> payload
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public_key
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ServerHello.random
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> zeros
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> —>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EKR: Thanks. Fixed width should be used for field names and
> other PDUs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I notice that some of these are regular words (zeros) so
> you have to determine from context whether it's referring to some protocol
> element or just to the concept "carries an encrypted payload" versus "the
> payload field". Do you want to take a cut at changing as many of these as
> make sense and then I can review, or would you prefer I make the changes?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One question is what to do in definition lists. My sense is
> that the list heds should be non-fixed-width but maybe you have a
> convention.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Thank you for offering to make changes. Please feel free
> to attach an updated markdown file containing the changes for terms using
> fixed-width font.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For definition lists, we typically leave this up to the
> authors to determine how they would like the terms to appear for
> consistency. For an example of terms in a definition list using a
> fixed-width font, see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9623.html#section-5.1.1.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please
> refresh):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html
> (side by side)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Markdown diffs:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each author prior to moving
> forward with formatting updates. For details of the AUTH48 process in
> kramdown-rfc (including the two-part approval process), see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Madison Church
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>
>
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