Hi Karen,

many thanks and yes, I approve.

Best,
 Thomas

On 25.03.2026 19:48, Karen Moore wrote:
Hello Martine and *coauthors,

We have updated "Section 2.7" to "Section 2.9” (in Section 7). With this 
change, we have noted your approval of the format on the AUTH48 status page 
(https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9953).

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On Mar 24, 2026, at 11:50 PM, Martine Sophie Lenders 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Karen, hello co-authors,

again only non-rendered parts are removed and the PRE-RFC9952 reference is changed to 
RFC9952. However, the versions of [COAP-CORR-CLAR] and [RFC7228bis] also changed. With 
[COAP-CORR-CLAR] this means that the Section reference in the first paragraph of Section 
7 needs to be changed. While checking that, I noticed that I made a mistake in the 
content review. The section that needs to be referenced is now 2.9 in corr-clar-04 (was 
2.8 in -03, NOT 2.7), see [1] where the reference was originally introduced and pointed 
to the then Section 2.6 "RFC 7252-9.1/11.3: Handling outdated addresses and security 
contexts" (which is Section 2.9 in corr-clar-04). As such, please make the following 
change in Section 7:

Current:
   Section 2.7 of
   [CoAP-CORR-CLAR] provides insights on what can be done when those are
   resumed from a new endpoint.

Change:
   Section 2.9 of
   [CoAP-CORR-CLAR] provides insights on what can be done when those are
   resumed from a new endpoint.

The [RFC7228bis] reference does not refer to a specific section and the 
information we are referencing is still in the document. So, after the change 
above, we are good to go, I believe.

Best
Martine

[1] 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-10#section-8

On 3/25/26 06:57, Karen Moore wrote:
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On Mar 24, 2026, at 9:49 PM, Karen Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Mike, Martine, and Marco,

Thank you for your replies. We have noted Mike’s approval of the beyond 
editorial changes on the AUTH48 status page 
(https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9953).

Given the current status of RFC-to-be 9846 and that no author approvals have 
been received to date, we will leave references to RFC 8446 in this document as 
is.

Authors, now that we have received all necessary approvals of the content, we 
will be proceeding with Part 2 of AUTH48;  we will contact you shortly 
regarding the format of the XML and output files.

Best regards,

Karen Moore
RFC Production Center


On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:52 PM, Mike Bishop <[email protected]> wrote:

Works for me.


From: Marco Tiloca <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2026 4:42:55 PM
To: Martine Sophie Lenders <[email protected]>; Mike Bishop 
<[email protected]>
Cc: Karen Moore <[email protected]>; [email protected]<[email protected]>; Matthias 
Waehlisch <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]<[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9953 <draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-20> 
for your review
Hi,

Speaking as Document Shepherd, I also think that either answer is fine, but I 
would like to point out that RFC9846-to-be is a complex document that has 
already spent more than three months in AUTH48, now with a pending proposed 
update (see [1][2][3] and the related ongoing consensus call [4] until April 6).

Because of that, and since the reference to RFC 8446 is rather specific (in the 
context of RFC 8323 and of the possible use of SNI), there is no need to queue 
up behind RFC9846-to-be, and keeping the reference RFC 8846 feels like 
preferable.

Best,
/Marco

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/zWP2Q4fAjL6KdX2pOX3ekduOQOU/

[2] https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/pull/1410

[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/jpSC_G9chvSpL34X7pH3oCKh6cE/

[4] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/HXlf6FvX4B6NmH0zeffiTiXCXw8/

From: Martine Sophie Lenders
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2026 9:15 PM
To: Mike Bishop
Cc: Karen Moore; [email protected]; Matthias Waehlisch; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; Marco Tiloca; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9953 <draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-20> 
for your review

On 3/24/26 15:10, Mike Bishop wrote:
Given that 8446-bis is also in AUTH48, might it make sense to update the
references from 8446 to 9846 and avoid referencing a newly- or nearly-
obsoleted document?

I'm fine with either answer; the changes in this diff are approved.

Discussed this with Christian offline today. He and I would leave it in
the end to the RFC editor. But considering that RFC-to-be 9846 is
already in AUTH48 for quite a while, we would prefer that if it's just a
week of delay, update the reference, otherwise we would prefer it to
leave it as is.

Best
Martine


------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* Martine Sophie Lenders
*Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2026 9:55 PM
*To:* Mike Bishop
*Cc:* Karen Moore; [email protected]; Matthias Waehlisch;
[email protected]; [email protected]; rfc-editor@rfc-
editor.org; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9953 <draft-ietf-core-dns-
over-coap-20> for your review

Hi Mike,

On 3/18/26 19:00, Karen Moore wrote:
Hi Martine, Thomas, Matthias, Christian, Cenk, and *Mike (AD),

Thank you for your replies. We have noted all of your approvals for
the content of this document on the AUTH48 status page (https://www.rfc-
editor.org/auth48/rfc9953 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9953>).
Note that we will remove any hidden comments prior to publication. Once
Mike approves the beyond editorial changes made, we will contact you
regarding approving the format of the document.

*Mike, as AD, please review the updates to the following sections and
let us know if you approve. The changes can be viewed here: <https://
www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953-auth48diff.html <https://www.rfc-
editor.org/authors/rfc9953-auth48diff.html>>.

   Section 3.2 (review "has a length between 0 and 23 octets, inclusive”)
   Section 3.2.1 (updates to the figures)
     [Note from Martine]:
     a) The hexadecimal TTL `00 00 06 6b` in the third example parses
to 1643, not 643.
     b) The RDATA in the last example contains 44 bytes (00 2c), not
43 bytes (00 2b)

These changes to the examples should be confirmable with any DNS parser
as the actual SVCB record data is not touched. However, there is also an
update in the current main branch of the Python-based DNS toolkit
`dnspython` [1] which specifically allows for parsing the docpath
SvcParam, in case you need output similar to the "human-readable" one.

Hope that can help you with your review.

Martine

[1]
https://github.com/rthalley/dnspython/
commit/08c5a9e6914b63eafb3a8b959c463a9213714ca3 <https://github.com/
rthalley/dnspython/commit/08c5a9e6914b63eafb3a8b959c463a9213714ca3>


   Section 4.3 (added “OPTIONAL”)
   Section 5.1  (updated "do so” to "unsubscribe or close the session”)
   Acknowledgements  (new text added)


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On Mar 17, 2026, at 11:02 PM, Martine Sophie Lenders
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Karen and team,

thanks for processing this.

One minor thing I noticed is, that there is still a list of
references no longer used (from the deleted appendices and
implementation status sections) at the very bottom of the markdown
version from line 809. Also there is still the comment on the too long
TXT output. From what I can see this resolved.

But neither those references nor the comment references show up in
the final HTML or TXT, so I count them as formatting updates and approve
the publication of the current version.

Best
Martine

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On Mar 16, 2026, at 4:54 PM, Martine Sophie Lenders
<[email protected]> wrote:

Dear RFC editor team,

here too, sorry for the late reply. Find our answers, additional
nits and errors found, and additional requests inline.

On 3/6/26 04:15, [email protected] wrote:
Authors,
While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
necessary) the following questions, which are also in the source file.
1) <!--[rfced] FYI: We updated [I-D.ietf-core-coap-dtls-alpn] to
[PRE-RFC9952]
for now. We will make the final updates in RFCXML (i.e., remove
"PRE-").
-->

ACK.

2) <!--[rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
updated as follows. The abbreviation has been expanded per
Section 3.6
of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). We also added "the". Please review.
Original:
    DNS over CoAP (DoC)
Current:
    DNS over the Constrained Application Protocol (DoC)
-->

See remarks in the reply on RFC-to-be-9952 with regards to "CoAP"
in the title. Our preferred title would be

  DNS over CoAP (DoC)

If adding CoAP to the well-known abbreviation list is not
possible, your proposal is fine.

3) <!--[rfced] May we remove "(CoAPS)" in the Abstract as this
term/abbreviation is not used elsewhere in the document?  Please
review.
Original:
    These CoAP messages can be protected by (D)TLS-Secured CoAP
(CoAPS)
    or Object Security for Constrained RESTful Environments
(OSCORE) to
    provide encrypted DNS message exchange for constrained devices in
    the Internet of Things (IoT).
Perhaps:
    These CoAP messages can be protected by (D)TLS-Secured CoAP or
    Object Security for Constrained RESTful Environments (OSCORE) to
    provide encrypted DNS message exchange for constrained devices in
    the Internet of Things (IoT).
-->

ACK.

4) <!--[rfced] FYI: draft-ietf-iotops-7228bis has not been
published yet
(currently, its IESG state is "I-D Exists"). Thus, we have left
references to RFC 7228 and draft-ietf-iotops-7228bis as is.
Author note:
    Please remove the {{-constr-nodes}} reference and replace
    it with {{I-D.ietf-iotops-7228bis}} throughout the document
in case
    {{I-D.ietf-iotops-7228bis}} becomes an RFC before publication.
-->

Yes, sadly draft-ietf-iotops-7228bis will take a little longer
until publication.

5) <!--[rfced] FYI - We updated "authoritive name server" to
"authoritative name
server" to match other usage in this document and in other RFCs.
Original:
    That DoC server can be the authoritive name server for the
queried
    record or a DNS client (i.e., a stub or recursive resolver) that
    resolves DNS information by using other DNS transports such
as DNS
    over UDP [STD13], DNS over HTTPS [RFC8484], or DNS over QUIC
    [RFC9250] when communicating with the upstream DNS
infrastructure.
Updated:
    That DoC server can be the authoritative name server for the
queried
    record or a DNS client (i.e., a stub or recursive resolver) that
    resolves DNS information by using other DNS transports such
as DNS
    over UDP [STD13], DNS over HTTPS [RFC8484], or DNS over QUIC
    [RFC9250] when communicating with the upstream DNS
infrastructure.
-->

ACK.

6) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify "is of length 0 and 24 octets" in
this sentence.
Original:
    As long as each docpath-
    segment is of length 0 and 24 octets, it is easily
transferred into
    the path representation in CRIs [I-D.ietf-core-href] by
masking each
    length octet with the CBOR text string major type 3 (0x60 as an
    octet, see [RFC8949]).
Perhaps:
    As long as each docpath-
    segment has a length between 0 and 24 octets, it is easily
transferred into
    the path representation in CRIs [CRI] by masking each length
octet
    with the CBOR text string major type 3 (0x60 as an octet; see
    [RFC8949]).
-->

Yes, it must be "between 0 and ...", however there is also a
technical error in that sentence (thanks Marco, for noticing last
minute!). To avoid ambiguity it is probably also best, to spefify that
the range is inclusive. It must read

    As long as each docpath-
    segment has a length between 0 and 23 octets, inclusive, it is
    easily transferred into
    the path representation in CRIs [CRI] by masking each length octet
    with the CBOR text string major type 3 (0x60 as an octet; see
    [RFC8949]).

24 is already the marker for that the value of the argument is
held in the following 1 byte (see [RFC8949, section 3]) and would thus
not be as easily transferable as stated.

7) <!--[rfced] We are having trouble parsing this sentence.
Please let us
know if it can be revised as shown below for clarity.
Original:
    Likewise, it can be transferred into a URI path-abempty form by
    replacing each length octet with the "/" character None of the
    abovementioned prevent longer docpath-segments than the
considered,
    they just make the translation harder, as they require to
make space
    for the longer delimiters, in turn requiring to move octets.
Perhaps:
    Likewise, it can be transferred into a URI path-abempty form by
    replacing each length octet with the "/" character. None of the
    abovementioned prevent longer docpath-segments than the
considered
    ones; they just make the translation harder as space is required
    for the longer delimiters, which in turn require octets to be
    moved.
-->
Due to the line ending in the Markdown file we failed to spot the
missing period between "character" and "None". Yes, please go ahead with
the proposed version.

8) <!-- [rfced] May we update "going through" to "with" here to
improve clarity?
Original:
    The construction algorithm for DoC
    requests is as follows, going through the provided records in
order
    of their priority.
Perhaps:
    The construction algorithm for DoC
    requests is as follows, with the provided records in order
    of their priority.
-->
ACK.

9) <!-- [rfced] How may we update the third item in the series
for parallel
structure? Would either removing "from" or adding "information"
be correct?
Original:
    This may include (1) A
    or AAAA RRs associated with the target name and delivered
with the
    SVCB RR (see [RFC9462]), (2) "ipv4hint" or "ipv6hint" SvcParams
    from the SVCB RR (see [RFC9461]), or (3) from IPv4 or IPv6
    addresses provided if DNR [RFC9463] is used.
Perhaps A (cut "from"):
    This may include (1) A
    or AAAA RRs associated with the target name and delivered
with the
    SVCB RR (see [RFC9462]), (2) "ipv4hint" or "ipv6hint" SvcParams
    from the SVCB RR (see [RFC9461]), or (3) IPv4 or IPv6
    addresses provided if DNR [RFC9463] is used.
or
Perhaps B (add "information"):
    This may include (1) A
    or AAAA RRs associated with the target name and delivered
with the
    SVCB RR (see [RFC9462]), (2) "ipv4hint" or "ipv6hint" SvcParams
    from the SVCB RR (see [RFC9461]), or (3) information from
IPv4 or IPv6
    addresses provided if DNR [RFC9463] is used.
-->

Proposal A is the more accurate one, so please use that one.

10) <!--[rfced] Per the following note, we have replaced "ff 0a"
with "00 0a" in
the examples in Section 3.2.1 (per IANA's assignment of "10" for
"docpath"). Please confirm that this is correct and let us know
if any further
updates are needed.
Author note:
    Since the number for "docpath" was not assigned at the time of
    writing, we used the hex `ff 0a` (in decimal 65290; from the
    private use range of SvcParamKeys) throughout this section.
Before
    publication, please replace `ff 0a` with the hexadecimal
    representation of the final value assigned by IANA in this
    section. Please remove this paragraph after that.
-->

Your replacements here are correct. However, while checking the
parsibility of the hexadecimal examples, we noticed several errors we
introduced:

a) The hexadecimal TTL `00 00 06 6b` in the third example parses to
   1643, not 643.

   Original:
     _dns.example.org.   643  IN SVCB 1 dns.example.org (

   Corrected:
     _dns.example.org.  1643  IN SVCB 1 dns.example.org (

b) The RDATA in the last example contains 44 bytes (00 2c),
   not 43 bytes (00 2b)

   Original:
     Resource record (binary):
       04 5f 64 6e 73 07 65 78 61 6d 70 6c 65 03 6f 72
       67 00 00 40 00 01 00 00 01 ad 00 2b 00 01 03 64

   Corrected:
     Resource record (binary):
       04 5f 64 6e 73 07 65 78 61 6d 70 6c 65 03 6f 72
       67 00 00 40 00 01 00 00 01 ad 00 2c 00 01 03 64

11) <!--[rfced] We note that "Cache-Key" appears as "cache key"
in RFC
8132. Would you like to match use in RFC 8132?
Original:
    This ensures that the CoAP Cache-Key (see [RFC8132], Section 2)
    does not change when multiple DNS queries for the same DNS data,
    carried in CoAP requests, are issued.
Perhaps:
    This ensures that the CoAP cache key (see [RFC8132], Section 2)
    does not change when multiple DNS queries for the same DNS data,
    carried in CoAP requests, are issued.
-->

We used the spelling from [RFC7252] here. As this is also used in
many other documents except [RFC8132] (e.g., RFC 9668, draft-ietf-core-
groupcomm-bis, or draft-ietf-core-cacheable-oscore), we would prefer the
original spelling "Cache-Key".

12) <!-- [rfced] Please review the text starting with "OPCODE—a DNS
Update ...". Should this be updated as follows or in some other way?
Original:
    As described in Section 4.1, a DoC server uses NotImp (RCODE
= 4) if
    it does not support an OPCODE—a DNS Update (OPCODE = 5) for
    "example.org" in this case.
Perhaps:
    As described in Section 4.1, a DoC server uses NotImp (RCODE
= 4) if
    it does not support an OPCODE - in this case, a DNS Update
(OPCODE = 5) for
    "example.org" is used.
-->

It is not used, but the NotImp (RCODE = 4) rejects the DNS Update
(OPCODE = 5). As we are not sure, if "reject" is the correct DNS
terminology, how about the following.

Proposal:
    As described in Section 4.1, a DoC server uses NotImp (RCODE =
4) if
    it does not support an OPCODE - in this case it errors on a DNS
    Update (OPCODE = 5) for "example.org".

13) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "a failure to do so" refers
to in the
following sentence.
Original:
    As there is no CoAP observer anymore from the perspective of the
    DoC server, a failure to do so cannot be communicated back to any
    DoC observer.
-->

A failure to unsubscribe or close the session.

Proposal:
    As there is no CoAP observer anymore from the perspective of the
    DoC server, a failure to unsubscribe or close the session
cannot be
    communicated back to any DoC observer.

14) <!--[rfced] FYI: We added "to protect" to this sentence for
clarity. Please let us know if it changes the intended meaning.
Original:
    For secure communication via (D)TLS or OSCORE, an
unpredictable ID
    against spoofing is not necessary.
Updated:
    For secure communication via (D)TLS or OSCORE, an
unpredictable ID
    to protect against spoofing is not necessary.
-->

ACK.

15) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We removed the change log, which included a
reference to RFC 2136. If RFC 2136 should be mentioned elsewhere in
the running text, please let us know.
-->

Section 4.1 clarifies that OPCODEs other than 0 are not supported,
as such (and as pointed out in the change log entry for `-10`), the
reference to single out DNS Update (OPCODE = 5, RFC 2136) is not
necessary. DNS Update is only mentioned as an example for the NotImp
RCODE now. We do not think that justifies the reference either. If you
think otherwise, please add an informational reference there, e.g.,
adapting our proposal from 12):

    As described in Section 4.1, a DoC server uses NotImp (RCODE =
4) if
    it does not support an OPCODE - in this case it errors on a DNS
    Update (OPCODE = 5, see [RFC2138]) for "example.org".

16) <!--[rfced] We note that "draft-amsuess-core-cachable-oscore" is
expired and has been replaced by "draft-ietf-core-cacheable-oscore".
May we replace the current entry below with the entry for
"draft-ietf-core-cacheable-oscore"?
Current:
  [I-D.amsuess-core-cachable-oscore]
    Amsüss, C. and M. Tiloca, "Cacheable OSCORE", Work in Progress,
    Internet-Draft, draft-amsuess-core-cachable-oscore-11, 6 July
2025,
    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-amsuess-core-
cachable-
    oscore-11>.
Perhaps:
  [CACHABLE-OSCORE]
     Amsüss, C. and M. Tiloca, "Cacheable OSCORE", Work in
     Progress, Internet-Draft, draft-ietf-core-cacheable-
     oscore-00, 22 September 2025,
     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-
     cacheable-oscore-00>.
-->

Yes, but the title changed as well in the most current version of
that draft.

Perhaps (also note the extra “E” in the reference):
  [CACHEABLE-OSCORE]
    Amsüss, C. and M. Tiloca, "End-to-End Protected and Cacheable
    Responses for the Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) using
    Group Object Security for Constrained RESTful Environments (Group
    OSCORE)", Work in Progress, Internet-Draft, draft-ietf-core-
    cacheable-oscore-01, 2 March 2026,
    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-
    cacheable-oscore-01>.

17) <!--[rfced] Sourcecode and artwork
a) Some lines in Figure 1 are too long for the TXT output. This
figure is
marked as artwork, so it needs to have a width of 72 characters
or less. How
may we revise this figure to fit these parameters? We tested
removing some
space in the figure; please check out the following test files
and let us know
if this would work (see TXT file for ascii art and HTML for SVG).
If not, please
provide an updated figure.
Test files:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953test.md <https://
www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953test.md>
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953test.txt <https://
www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953test.txt>
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953test.html <https://
www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9953test.html>

Your proposal is still recognizable as the original when parsed to
SVG and readable when shown in TXT, so ACK for taking the proposal in
rfc9953test.md.

b) We have updated the blocks in Sections 3.2, 3.2.1, 4.2.3, and
4.3.3 to be
marked as sourcecode. We set the type for the block in Section
3.2 as "abnf"
(i.e., "~~~ abnf"). Please let us know if the type should be set
for the other
sourcecode blocks. For example, should the ones in Section 3.2.1
be marked as
type "dns-rr"? If the current list of preferred values (see link
below) does
not contain an applicable type, feel free to let us know. Also, it is
acceptable to leave the type not set.
List of sourcecode types:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types>

As far as we can tell, marking them as “sourcecode” in Markdown,
makes these blocks rendered into a <sourcecode> XML element, rather than
an <artwork> element. That is definitely more correct.

All of them are merely textual representations of DNS messages or
resource records, so we would not assign any type to them (except maybe
"txt", but that does not seem to exist and we see it as equivalent to
having no type).

Looking at other RFCs, "dns-rr" only is used for zone-file-like
DNS resource records (which we also use after `Resource record (human-
readable):`). However, our examples include a hexadecimal part (as well
as the labels for each). We fear that this might confuse parsers more
than it is helpful, so these examples should stay pure text blocks as well.

c) The blocks in Section 4.3.3 are too long for the TXT output.
We marked
these as sourcecode, so they should have a width of 69 characters
or less. The
long lines are currently 70 characters. Would moving all the
lines with
semicolons over to the left one space (in just this section or in
all the
sourcecode in the document) be a good solution? We tried this in
the test
files listed above so you can see what the output will look like.
Feel free to
offer other suggestions as well.
-->

Yes that is acceptable. However, for reasons of consistency it
should also be applied to _all_ examples in Sections 3.2.1, 4.2.3, and
4.3.3, including the indent under `Resource record (binary):`, `Resource
record (human-readable):` and `Payload (binary):`, e.g., in Section 3.2.1

  ~~~
  Resource record (binary):
   04 5f 64 6e 73 07 65 78 61 6d 70 6c 65 03 6f 72
   67 00 00 40 00 01 00 00 06 28 00 1e 00 01 03 64
   6e 73 07 65 78 61 6d 70 6c 65 03 6f 72 67 00 00
   01 00 03 02 63 6f 00 0a 00 00

  Resource record (human-readable):
   _dns.example.org.  1576  IN SVCB 1 dns.example.org (
       alpn=co docpath )
  ~~~
  {: gi="sourcecode"}

or in Section 4.2.3

  ~~~
  FETCH coaps://[2001:db8::1]/
  Content-Format: 553 (application/dns-message)
  Accept: 553 (application/dns-message)
  Payload (binary):
   00 00 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 65 78 61
   6d 70 6c 65 03 6f 72 67 00 00 1c 00 01

  Payload (human-readable):
   ;; ->>Header<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 0
   ;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

   ;; QUESTION SECTION:
   ;example.org.             IN      AAAA
  ~~~
  {: gi="sourcecode"}

18) <!--[rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of
the online
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/
#inclusive_language <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/
#inclusive_language>>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this
nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but
this should
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->

Thanks! To the best of our abilities, we did not find any
potentially remaining non-inclusive wordings in the document.

--------------------------------------

# Additional Nits and Errors Found

The current version of RFC-to-be 9953 effectively replaced an "or"
with an "and". Furthermore, that the more related DTLS and TLS separated
by OSCORE read a little bit weird on final read-through.

Original:
  Each CoAP message can be secured by DTLS 1.2 or newer [RFC6347]
  [RFC9147] as well as Object Security for Constrained RESTful
  Environments (OSCORE) [RFC8613] but also TLS 1.3 or newer [RFC8323]
  [RFC8446] to ensure message integrity and confidentiality.

Current:
  Each CoAP message can be secured by DTLS 1.2 or newer [RFC6347]
  [RFC9147] as well as Object Security for Constrained RESTful
  Environments (OSCORE) [RFC8613] and TLS 1.3 or newer [RFC8323]
  [RFC8446] to ensure message integrity and confidentiality.

Since the "or" is meant to be inclusive (nothing speaks against,
e.g., combining DTLS and OSCORE), we would prefer the following:

Proposal:
  Each CoAP message can be secured by any combination of DTLS 1.2 or
  newer [RFC6347] [RFC9147], TLS 1.3 or newer [RFC8323] [RFC8446], or
  Object Security for Constrained RESTful Environments (OSCORE)
  [RFC8613] to ensure message integrity and confidentiality.

---------------------------------------

In paragraph 7 of Section 3.2 of -20 (see https://www.ietf.org/
archive/id/draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-20.html#section-3.2-7)
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-core-dns-over-
coap-20.html#section-3.2-7)> it states in HTML and TXT form:

  The same considerations for the "," and "" characters in
  docpath-segments [...]

There is a render error here due to the original Markdown having
only one `\` inserted between the quotation-mark pair `""` which results
in an interpretation as an escaped `"`. The Markdown must be corrected
as follows.

Original:
  The same considerations for the "," and "\" characters in
  docpath-segments [...]

Proposal:
  The same considerations for the "," and "\\" characters in
  docpath-segments [...]

(Thanks Marco for spotting this)

---------------------------------------

The "optional" with regards to the Accept option in Section 4.3
should be normative

Original:
  The use of the Accept option in the request is optional.

Proposed change:
  The use of the Accept option in the request is OPTIONAL.

---------------------------------------

The two ndashes in Section 4.3.3 should actually be "–" (&ndash;
as XML character entity reference) not two minuses (--)

Original:
  When a DNS error -- NxDomain (RCODE = 3) for "does.not.exist" in
this case -- is noted in the DNS response, the CoAP response still
indicates success.

Proposed change:
  When a DNS error – NxDomain (RCODE = 3) for "does.not.exist" in
this case – is noted in the DNS response, the CoAP response still
indicates success.

---------------------------------------

In Section 5.1 the capitalization of "DNS push [notification(s)]"
is mixed. E.g.,

  DNS Push Notifications [RFC8765] provide the capability to
  asynchronously notify clients about resource record changes.

vs.

  The DoC server MAY subscribe to DNS push notifications for that
  record.

Since [RFC8765] capitalizes "DNS Push Notification(s)"
consistently, we prefer the consistent spelling of "DNS Push", "DNS Push
Notifications", etc. in RFC-to-be 9953 as well. "Notification" on its
own (as well as its plural) or in conjunction with CoAP Observe should
remain uncapitalized, as per Section 2.

----------------------------------------

In Section 7, RFC-to-be 9953 refers to considerations on the
maintenance of long-lived security contexts. In the cited version
(`-03`) of [CoAP-CORR-CLAR], these considerations moved to Section 2.7.

Original:
  Additionally, DoC uses request patterns that require
  the maintenance of long-lived security contexts.  Section 2.6 of
  [CoAP-CORR-CLAR] provides insights on what can be done when
those are
  resumed from a new endpoint.

Proposed change:
  Additionally, DoC uses request patterns that require
  the maintenance of long-lived security contexts.  Section 2.7 of
  [CoAP-CORR-CLAR] provides insights on what can be done when
those are
  resumed from a new endpoint.

----------------------------------------

# Additional Requests

Please append the following sentence to the acknowledgements:

  This work was supported in parts by the German Federal Ministry of
  Research, Technology and Space (BMFTR) under the grant numbers
  16KIS1386K (TU Dresden) and 16KIS1387 (HAW Hamburg) within the
  research project PIVOT and under the grant numbers 16KIS1694K (TU
  Dresden) and 16KIS1695 (HAW Hamburg) within the research project
  C-ray4edge.

Thank you.

Thank you!
Martine

Karen Moore and Rebecca VanRheenen
RFC Production Center
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RFC9953 (draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-20)
Title            : DNS over CoAP (DoC)
Author(s)        : M. S. Lenders, C. Amsüss, C. Gündoğan, T. C.
Schmidt, M. Wählisch
WG Chair(s)      : Jaime Jimenez, Marco Tiloca
Area Director(s) : Gorry Fairhurst, Mike Bishop





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° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group   20099 Hamburg, Germany °
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