Hi Karen,

On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 at 19:22, Karen Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thank you for the nice comment. Note that we have updated Hannes’ affiliation 
> and marked your approval.

Thanks!

> In terms of removing "this example uses line wrapping per [RFC8792]” within 
> the figure in Section 5.4, note that other RFCs typically contain this text 
> within the figure as well as in the running text (we add it to the running 
> text if not present in order to cite RFC 8792). Please see RFCs 9644, 9834, 
> and 9950 as examples.
>
> Given this, we have left the text as is.

OK, as usual, I'll leave it to your superior judgement :-)

> Another option would be to remove "(this example uses line wrapping per 
> [RFC8792])” from Section 5.4 and instead state the following in Section 2:
>
>     Perhaps:
>     The example in Section 5.4 uses line wrapping per [RFC8792].
>
> Please review and let us know your preference.

I'm fine with leaving it as it is.

cheers!

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> Best regards,
>
> Karen Moore
> RFC Production Center
>
> > On Jun 9, 2026, at 10:41 PM, Thomas Fossati <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Karen, thanks for the update.
> >
> > (nearly) Everything looks very good.
> >
> > On doing another scan, I noticed a couple of minor issues:
> > 1. Hannes' affiliation is still reported as H-BRS in the header, but
> > it should be "UniBw M."
> > 2. In §5.4, since the prose now says "this example uses line wrapping
> > per [RFC8792]", we could remove the similar text from the example just
> > below.
> >
> > Once these two items are fixed, I approve publication of the document.
> >
> > Thank you very much for the great work!
> >
> > cheers, t
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Jun 2026 at 22:50, Karen Moore <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Thomas,
> >>
> >> We have updated our files accordingly. Please let us know if you approve 
> >> the document in its current form or if any further updates are needed. We 
> >> will await approvals from each author prior to moving forward with 
> >> publication.
> >>
> >> 1) Note that for Figures 1 and 2, we made “topology” uppercase (rather 
> >> than making “Conceptual Messages” lowercase). Thanks for pointing that out.
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> side)
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9999
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Karen Moore
> >> RFC Production Center
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 9, 2026, at 7:35 AM, Thomas Fossati <[email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Karen,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very much for your changes.
> >>>
> >>> Please find some more comments below.
> >>>
> >>> cheers!
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 at 22:46, Karen Moore wrote:
> >>>> Hi Thomas,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your reply!  We have updated our files accordingly.  We
> >>>> have a few additional questions:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) We note that “Collection CMW” is preferred. Please let us know
> >>>> if/how you would like this sentence to be updated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Current:
> >>>>  CMW Records, Tags, and Collections alone do not offer authenticity,
> >>>>  integrity protection, or confidentiality.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>  Record, Tag, and Collection CMWs alone do not offer authenticity,
> >>>>  integrity protection, or confidentiality.
> >>>
> >>> The "Perhaps" looks better.
> >>>
> >>>> 2) In Section 5.4, we replaced "҄@\xA0D\xD9\u0001\xF5\xA0\@" with "…".
> >>>> Please review and let us know if any further changes are needed.
> >>>
> >>> After some more discussion, we believe that it's worth annotating it
> >>> with something more meaningful like "serialized CM value"
> >>>
> >>>> 3) We moved Dionna Glaze to the Acknowledgements section. If she
> >>>> should be listed as a contributor instead, please let us know.
> >>>
> >>> Dionna told us that her employer has not yet approved her contributions
> >>> to the IETF.  Therefore, I don't think it would be appropriate to list
> >>> her as a contributor.
> >>>
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> >>>> the most recent version. Please review the document carefully to
> >>>> ensure satisfaction as we do not make changes once it has been
> >>>> published as an RFC.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please contact us with any further updates or with your approval of
> >>>> the document in its current form.  We will await approvals from each
> >>>> author prior to moving forward in the publication process.
> >>>
> >>> After reviewing the whole document we have the following comments:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Abstract and Introduction (two instances):
> >>>
> >>> "[...] conveyed between RATS roles during RATS."
> >>>
> >>> sounds like the sentence was cut short.
> >>>
> >>> We'd like to propose:
> >>>
> >>> "[...] conveyed between RATS roles during RATS interactions."
> >>>
> >>> 2. The new caption of Figure 2 has a couple of typos:
> >>> a. missing "of" after "Conveyance"
> >>> b. extra '"' at the end
> >>>
> >>> Also, these captions are the only place where "Conceptual Messages" is
> >>> capitalised like this.  Should they be "conceptual messages" instead?
> >>>
> >>> 3. Hannes's affiliation is not current and should be updated to:
> >>>
> >>>  Hannes Tschofenig
> >>>  University of the Bundeswehr Munich
> >>>  Institute of Distributed Intelligent Systems
> >>>  Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39
> >>>  85577 Neubiberg
> >>>  Germany
> >>>  Email: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> 4. The [TLS-DTLS] reference is no longer active.  It has been replaced
> >>> by I-D.fossati-seat-early-attestation.  We should update it and display
> >>> it as [RA-TLS-EARLY].
> >>>
> >>> 5. In the abstract:
> >>>
> >>> "[...] evolves message serialization formats without breaking
> >>>  compatibility"
> >>>
> >>> suggests the wrong idea that CMW itself drives the evolution of
> >>> message serialisation formats, whereas the concept here is that CMW
> >>> enables the smooth evolution of serialisation formats.
> >>>
> >>> We'd like to propose:
> >>>
> >>> "[...] enables the evolution of message serialization formats without
> >>>  breaking compatibility"
> >>>
> >>> 6. In the abstract, the following statement contains a couple of
> >>> inaccuracies:
> >>>
> >>>   "[...] this document defines a media type and a CoAP Content-Format
> >>>    to transport CMWs over protocols"
> >>>
> >>> The "to transport" part makes it sound as though the Content-Format is
> >>> transporting the CMW.
> >>>
> >>> Besides, we define more than one media type and one C-F.
> >>>
> >>> Therefore, we'd like to propose the following:
> >>>
> >>> "[...] this document defines media types and CoAP Content-Formats
> >>>  which may be used to identify CMWs when transported over protocols".
> >>>
> >>> 7. In Section 3.1.1: we say "the ind byte string" but it should be "the
> >>> ind bitmap" instead.
> >>>
> >>> 8. We have also just noticed that some incorrect information has been
> >>> introduced:
> >>>
> >>> "IANA has allocated CBOR tag numbers and the corresponding data items,
> >>>  as shown in Table 4."
> >>>
> >>> However, in this case, IANA hasn't done any allocation; the carve-out
> >>> has been in place since RFC9277.
> >>>
> >>> To fix the two problems above we propose:
> >>>
> >>> OLD
> >>>
> >>> 9.6.2.  CBOR Tags per RFC 9277
> >>>
> >>>  Registering the CoAP Content-Formats listed in Table 3 automatically
> >>>  allocates CBOR tags in the range [1668546817, 1668612095] using the
> >>>  TN() transform defined in Appendix B of [RFC9277].  IANA has
> >>>  allocated CBOR tag numbers and the corresponding data items as shown
> >>>  in Table 4.
> >>>
> >>>  +============+===============================+
> >>>  | Tag Number | Tag Content                   |
> >>>  +============+===============================+
> >>>  | 1668547091 | bytes .cbor cbor-cmw          |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>  | 1668547092 | bytes .cbor signed-cbor-cmw   |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>  | 1668547093 | bytes-wrapped json-cmw        |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>  | 1668547094 | bytes-wrapped signed-json-cmw |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>
> >>>          Table 4: TN-Derived CBOR Tags
> >>>
> >>>  Figure 7 extends the $cbor-tag socket defined in Section 3.2 to add
> >>>  the definitions of the associated Tag CMWs.  Note that CMWs in Tag
> >>>  and Record form are excluded from the productions.  This is because
> >>>  they can already be represented as a CMW, so the extra wrapping would
> >>>  be redundant.
> >>>
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-cbor<1668547091, cbor-collection>
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-cbor<1668547092, signed-cbor-cmw>
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-data<1668547093> ; bytes(cmw+json collection)
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-data<1668547094> ; bytes(cmw+jws)
> >>>
> >>>                      Figure 7: Tag CMW Definitions
> >>>
> >>> NEW
> >>>
> >>> 9.6.2.  CBOR Tags per RFC 9277
> >>>
> >>>  Registering the CoAP Content-Formats listed in Table 3 automatically
> >>>  allocates CBOR tags in the range [1668546817, 1668612095] using the
> >>>  TN() transform defined in Appendix B of [RFC9277].  The allocated
> >>>  CBOR tag numbers and the corresponding data items are shown in
> >>>  Table 4.
> >>>
> >>>  Note that CMWs in Tag and Record form are excluded.  This is because
> >>>  they can already be represented as a CMW, so the extra wrapping would
> >>>  be redundant.
> >>>
> >>>  +============+===============================+
> >>>  | Tag Number | Tag Content                   |
> >>>  +============+===============================+
> >>>  | 1668547091 | bytes .cbor cbor-collection   |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>  | 1668547092 | bytes .cbor signed-cbor-cmw   |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>  | 1668547093 | bytes-wrapped json-collection |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>  | 1668547094 | bytes-wrapped signed-json-cmw |
> >>>  +------------+-------------------------------+
> >>>
> >>>          Table 4: TN-Derived CBOR Tags
> >>>
> >>>  Figure 7 extends the $cbor-tag socket defined in Section 3.2 to add
> >>>  the definitions of the associated Tag CMWs.
> >>>
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-cbor<1668547091, cbor-collection>
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-cbor<1668547092, signed-cbor-cmw>
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-data<1668547093> ; bytes(cmw+json collection)
> >>>  $cbor-tag /= tag-cm-data<1668547094> ; bytes(cmw+jws)
> >>>
> >>>                      Figure 7: Tag CMW Definitions
> >>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> For the status of this document, please see:
> >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9999
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Karen Moore
> >>>> RFC Production Center
> >>
>

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