On Thu, Jun 25, 2026 at 10:31 PM Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Eric, Deb* (as AD), IANA,
>
> Thanks for sending the markdown file along.  We have updated it a bit so
> that we could get output files.  We have a few questions below.
>
> IANA, please see item 5 below.
>
> *Deb, please review and confirm that these updates are acceptable.  We
> recommend reviewing the following diffs:
>
> Diffs highlighting the most recent updates only:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-lastdiff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-lastrfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
>
> The current files are available as follows:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.md
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.txt
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.html
>
> AUTH48 diffs:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-auth48diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
>
> Comprehensive diffs:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>
>
> Eric, please review the items below.
>

An updated markdown file is available at:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/94ccece457fd37738390a844174a8d74e5ea4638/rfc9846.md


> 1) We updated "The Transcript Hash” to be Section 4.1 — please confirm
> that this is correct.
>
> Previously, Section 4 was nested as follows:
>
> 4. Handshake Protocol
> 4.1. Key Exchange Messages
> 4.1.1. Cryptographic Negotiation
> 4.1.2. Client Hello
> 4.1.3. Server Hello
> 4.1.4. Hello Retry Request
> …
> 4.4.  Authentication Messages
> 4.4.1.  The Transcript Hash
> …
>
> In the updated file, kramdown-rfc complained about the nesting, which
> appeared as follows:
> # Handshake Protocol
> ### The Transcript Hash
>

Thank you for fixing this.

I have reverted your changes of "I.e.," to "That is". I.e., is fine. If you
believe any copy-edit changes are needed at this stage, can you please flag
them explicitly as below, rather than making them in the copy.




> 2) Confirm "non-DHE key key establishment algorithms” is correct (occurs
> 2x)
>

This is correct.


> 3) Should this be “as 0-RTT data on connection 1”?
>
>   … as an attacker may be able to cause the data to be
>   processed as 0-RTT data as connection 1 and as 1-RTT data on
>   connection 2.
>

I have corrected this.



4) To get the outputs, we updated the references to RFC 9846 to be included
> as “PRE-RFC9846” - it will be updated in the XML file prior to
> publication.  Would you be open to not including a self-reference to RFC
> 9846, and including the references in the IANA tables as plain text
> "[RFC9846]” instead - this would be normal handling to avoid
> self-references.
>

I can live with this. Deb, Sean?

-Ekr
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