On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 6:15 PM Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Eric, Deb*,
>
> We have updated the document.
> It looks like we may have missed this in earlier rounds, but we don’t see
> an in-text citation for RFC 9146.


We don't need one. Let's just remove it.

-Ekr


> Please review and let us know where one should be included.
>
> Notes:
> - [PRE-RFC9846] has been replaced with [RFC9846] (no links).  The
> reference entry to RFC 9846 has been removed.
> - While we prefer not to start sentences with I.e., we have left it per
> your preference.
>
> *Deb, please confirm that the updates shown in the diffs below are
> acceptable:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-ADrfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-ADdiff.html
>
> Please review and let us know if any additional updates are needed
> (outside of the publication date) or if you approve the RFC for
> publication.
>
> IANA indicated the updates are complete, but I have not yet confirmed them
> — we will let you know if there are any issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Sandy Ginoza
> RFC Production Center
>
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 2026, at 10:52 AM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2026 at 10:31 PM Sandy Ginoza <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Eric, Deb* (as AD), IANA,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the markdown file along.  We have updated it a bit so
> that we could get output files.  We have a few questions below.
> >
> > IANA, please see item 5 below.
> >
> > *Deb, please review and confirm that these updates are acceptable.  We
> recommend reviewing the following diffs:
> >
> > Diffs highlighting the most recent updates only:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-lastdiff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-lastrfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >
> > The current files are available as follows:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.md
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.txt
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.pdf
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846.html
> >
> > AUTH48 diffs:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-auth48diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-auth48rfcdiff.html (side
> by side)
> >
> > Comprehensive diffs:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9846-rfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >
> >
> > Eric, please review the items below.
> >
> > An updated markdown file is available at:
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/94ccece457fd37738390a844174a8d74e5ea4638/rfc9846.md
> >
> >
> > 1) We updated "The Transcript Hash” to be Section 4.1 — please confirm
> that this is correct.
> >
> > Previously, Section 4 was nested as follows:
> >
> > 4. Handshake Protocol
> > 4.1. Key Exchange Messages
> > 4.1.1. Cryptographic Negotiation
> > 4.1.2. Client Hello
> > 4.1.3. Server Hello
> > 4.1.4. Hello Retry Request
> > …
> > 4.4.  Authentication Messages
> > 4.4.1.  The Transcript Hash
> > …
> >
> > In the updated file, kramdown-rfc complained about the nesting, which
> appeared as follows:
> > # Handshake Protocol
> > ### The Transcript Hash
> >
> > Thank you for fixing this.
> >
> > I have reverted your changes of "I.e.," to "That is". I.e., is fine. If
> you believe any copy-edit changes are needed at this stage, can you please
> flag them explicitly as below, rather than making them in the copy.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Confirm "non-DHE key key establishment algorithms” is correct (occurs
> 2x)
> >
> > This is correct.
> >
> >
> > 3) Should this be “as 0-RTT data on connection 1”?
> >
> >   … as an attacker may be able to cause the data to be
> >   processed as 0-RTT data as connection 1 and as 1-RTT data on
> >   connection 2.
> >
> > I have corrected this.
> >
> >
> > 4) To get the outputs, we updated the references to RFC 9846 to be
> included as “PRE-RFC9846” - it will be updated in the XML file prior to
> publication.  Would you be open to not including a self-reference to RFC
> 9846, and including the references in the IANA tables as plain text
> "[RFC9846]” instead - this would be normal handling to avoid
> self-references.
> >
> > I can live with this. Deb, Sean?
> >  -Ekr
> >
> >
>
>
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