On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Ian Laurenson wrote:

> A commendable list of links! But, not one of them says that the books
> are about to be printed and the proceeds from the sale of the books is
> to be decided by the authors.

You missed this one,
http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=10276
Which in part says,

Money raised from sales of OOoAuthors books will be spent as decided by 
the contributors to those books. At some point (when we actually have some 
money in the account), we'll need to work out just how to handle these 
decisions, but that's a topic for another thread, and probably another 
day.

> My issue is not about printing and selling the books, my issue is to do
> with the lack of discussion about the process and where the money is
> going to go. It would appear that the OOo Community Council has similar
> concerns.

See above

> If all the money went to a central OOo fund and the accounts were open
> and audited then I would feel a lot more comfortable.

Ian, I can assure you that the accounts at Friends of OpenDocument Inc are 
protected under the Associations Incorporation Act (1981) in the state of 
Queensland, Australia. The Office of Fair Trading administers the Act 
which requires an annual auditors report. All money incoming and outgoing 
is required to be recorded. 

> The current proposal of having the authors decide, to me, is a recipe
> for disaster. Putting aside the concerns of the OOo Community Council
> for a moment, let me pose a scenario:
> 
> Person A has put a lot of effort into writing and maintaining a chapter.
> Person B is new and tentatively suggests a few changes. Person A rejects
> those changes so that Person B doesn't have a say on the proceeds of the
> sale of the chapter. Person B leaves feeling discouraged.
> 
> As I think this scenario shows, to me the current proposal is not
> detrimental to the broader OOo community but also to the OOoAuthors
> community.

That scenario is totaly irrelevant as it applies to any organisation or 
group of people, it also applies to OpenOffice.org.

> 
> Is the possible worst case scenario improvement in the mail list worth
> more than the confusion and ill will caused by further separation from
> OOo by OOoAuthors? To me it is not.

Ian, You should be asking the Community Council why the sale of 
OpenOffice.org CDs for personal profit is acceptable while telling the 
Authors they must donate any profits derived from the sale of oooAuthors 
documentation to Team OpenOffice.org e.V.

You are forgetting that it was the CC that proposed taking the list away 
from oooAuthors, and removing oooAuthors documentation from the 
OpenOffice.org Website, and now people are complaining even members of the 
CC who supported the proposal. Now go ask them why.

It appears, to me, the CC has developed a severe case of double standards. 



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