Ian Laurenson wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 10:54 +0000, Daniel Carrera wrote:
[snip]
Someone might. But consider that the OOo council has already talked
about telling OOoAuthors to move. They thought of it. It seems wrong to
say to someone "you can't use our list anymore" and when they move then
say "see, they betrayed us!".
I feel betrayed by OOoAuthors!
My interpretation of what the OOo council is saying is "if the
OOoAuthors leaders keep betraying the OOo community then we will have to
take what steps we can to distance ourselves from OOoAuthors". To me
this is a perfectly reasonable stance.
It has been suggested that the printing of the books was discussed prior
to printing but no one has been able to point to archived messages of
that discussion.
I spent about half an hour searching the archives, and came up with
following links. I think the idea of selling printed books seemed so
natural and obvious that it never generated much discussion, much less
controversy. Once it came up, everybody just assumed that it would
eventually happen.
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=4603>
19-Nov-04 Daniel mentions Lulu.com as POD vendor for open source books,
not specifically OOoAuthors guides.
Also in the same thread:
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=4630>
20-Nov-04 Jacqueline McNally mentions that Lulu was used for the OOo
Strategic Marketing Plan.
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=4639>
19-Nov-04 Jonathan Blake suggests publishing the Users Guide on
Lulu, and indicates he plans to publish _OOo in a Multi-Lingual
Environment_ there also.
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=4655>
20-Nov-04 Linda Worthington me-toos that idea.
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgId=1769710>
11-Feb-05 Jean mentions planning to have printed books (not specifically
selling them).
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=6248>
24-Feb-05 Jean mentions selling printed copies of the GSG and other guides.
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgId=1879126>
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgId=1879153>
12-Mar-05 Daniel mentions the ability to sell books, in a discussion of
license options, as a reason for using the dual license we eventually
settled on.
<http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgId=1981407>
02-May-05 Jean mentions planning to sell printed books.
It has also been suggested that the rationale for changing the mailing
list server is a technical one. Yes the OOo mail server was slow last
week, and has been on a few other occasions as well. To the best of my
knowledge this has been due to problems with circulating viruses. Can
anybody guarantee that the new server won't have issues with viruses and
needing to act prudently to prevent their spread?
Certainly, nobody can guarantee anything when it comes to viruses. As I
mentioned before, the server hosts at least two other
open-source-community mailing lists of comparable size, currently with
good performance. Virus and spam protections are in place. I can get
further details on this if there is sufficient interest. Probably the
fact that this server handles only a few mailing lists (whereas
openoffice.org handles a great many) contributes to its better
performance. I do not forsee the number of mailing lists on that server
proliferating to the level of openoffice.org.
--
Janet Swisher --- Senior Technical Writer
Enthought, Inc. http://www.enthought.com
