Gerhard Froehlich wrote: > Paul convinced to use Intellij's IDEA. > It's not bad and it as a good CVS integration. > > but it costs 389 bucks :(
That's a $389 I would be happy to shell out. The pluses on that IDE make it much more usable than JBuilder or VisualAge Java. Let's put it this way, it takes the refactoring abilities of VisualAge, removes the flakiness, uses your source code repository, and has all the editing features of JBuilder. Since I don't trust GUI builders built in to IDEs, I am happy that I don't have to pay ~$1000 for useable features. VisualAge Java Professional is ~$130, and for what you get is pretty decent. The problem is that you are locked into VisualAge's source code repository and flaky classloader issues. Not to meantion it is always a JDK or two behind the curve. Borland JBuilder is merely eye candy until you shell out the >$600 bucks for the Professional license. I mean what advantage is there to disabling the interface wizard? Just create a class and change the keyword to interface... Together ControlCenter is the cat's meow if you can stomach a >$6000 price tag. It's pattern based code generation tools, UML editing, and code auditing features have me salivating until I look at the price tag (what a cold slap in the face)! The CHEAPEST version they have is >$3000. Clearly not good for an individual developer. Intellij IDEA is the closest thing to a truly useful IDE there is, and comparatively is well featured. It is the first IDE I have seen that focuses on the way you code (or at least I code). What I would like to see is a prorated pricing scheme so that I only pay for the features I want. That way, if $6000 is the top price for Together Control Center, I only pay for the modelling types I support and the code generation facilities--or something to that affect. However, no matter how much I begged them, TogetherSoft has ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION of releasing any of its product line in the sub $1000 price range. As a general rule, forget anything by Microsoft--you end up fighting the tool 50% of the time and the libraries 45% of the time, which only leaves you with 5% of your time to do anything useful. I haven't gotten into Forte or any of the others. > > after evaluation copy back to UltraEdit :) > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Eric Medlock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:12 PM >>To: Avalon Developers List >>Subject: IDEs >> >> >>Is there a favorite Java IDE amoung you folks? >> >>Eric Medlock >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals >>http://personals.yahoo.com >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > . > > -- "Those who would trade liberty for temporary security deserve neither" - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
