All,

Just to clarify some things:

1) I explained the purpose of the fix in AXIS2-4465. I believe that
the description gives enough information about the why and the how of
the change. If not, point to the parts that are not clear. Please also
have a look at the linked issues to see the kind of problems the code
had before the fix. While doing the changes I inadvertently removed a
public method. As explained above, this can be easily fixed, and I
will do so.

2) I think there is no need to start yelling around about "merrily
chang[ing] APIs", "things are going to become a big mess" and "engage
the community before making such drastic changes". I did lots of fixes
in Axiom and Axis2 since Synapse trunk switched from Axis2 SNAPSHOT to
1.5, and when Hiranya switched back to SNAPSHOT there were no
particular issues related to them, except for the issue discussed
here. I personally take the suggestion that my changes make of Axis2 a
big mess as an offense. If that is what some people think, I can stop
immediately to work on Axis2 and Axiom. With respect to engaging the
community, as mentioned above, the description of AXIS2-4465 provides
enough information about the reasons for the change and as Dims
pointed out, we have a commit-and-review policy. Since the change is
focused, not massive, can easily be reverted and contains an
appropriate level of Javadoc, I think that the community has
everything that is needed to review it.

Finally, I could ask in reply how all these principles applied to the
change in r744900 [2], which incidentally is the second change that
caused problems when switching Axis2 versions on the Synapse trunk and
which did not address any bug at all.

3) The discussion in AXIS2-4465 pointed to the problem that even by
preserving the public API of AxisServlet, we will probably not be able
to avoid breaking subclasses. This is caused by the fact that
AxisServlet doesn't have an extensible design. If somebody has a
brilliant idea how to get around this problem (other than reverting
the fix and reopening the 6 issues it is supposed to solve), please
speak out.

Andreas

[1] http://markmail.org/message/62dixjx3qrqry3yr
[2] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=744900

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 18:08, Senaka Fernando<sen...@wso2.com> wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Just wondering what you are trying to achieve here. Is this related to auto
> detection of ports as Hiranya pointed out? While I appreciate the effort
> you've put into doing something worthwhile, I believe that getting rid of a
> public method in a class is not the correct thing to do. I believe that what
> you have done here is the addition of a new portion of code. Can we make the
> new portion of code optional? And leave the existing logic as it was? Also,
> are you planning further changes to this class? if so, it would perhaps be
> better to figure out a more elaborate solution, which safeguards both the
> existing level of extensibility of this class and also its public API.
>
> Thanks,
> Senaka
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka <hiranya...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> By looking at the code I got the impression that HTTP transport receivers
>> should extend the AxisServletListener class for your logic of port auto
>> detection to work. Is that correct? What happens if the transport receivers
>> used do not extend this class? All request handler methods call the
>> preprocessRequest method which in turns run port auto detection. If the
>> transport receivers do not extend AxisServlerListener how is that handled?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hiranya
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Andreas Veithen
>> <andreas.veit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Afkham,
>>>
>>> The only change I see in the public APIs is the disappearance of the
>>> initContextRoot method. We can easily fix this be restoring the
>>> original initContextRoot method and let the preprocessRequest method
>>> call initContextRoot. Do you see any other things to change?
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 13:45, Afkham Azeez<afk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Yes Dims. However, if everybody continues to merrily change APIs,
>>> > making public methods private & so on, things are going to become a
>>> > big mess. Axis2 provides public APIs, and those may be having
>>> > problems, but still they are public APIs. This is why you have to be
>>> > very careful when defining APIs; if you get them wrong, you may have
>>> > to live with it for a long time.
>>> >
>>> > Azeez
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Davanum Srinivas<dava...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Azeez,
>>> >>
>>> >> We are still following, commit-then-review right?
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks,
>>> >> dims
>>> >>
>>> >> On 08/20/2009 07:33 AM, Afkham Azeez wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Andreas,
>>> >>> The changes you've done to the APIs as per
>>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS2-4465 badly breaks some of
>>> >>> the projects that depend on Axis2. Please revert this, and please
>>> >>> engage the community before making such drastic changes in the
>>> >>> future.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Afkham Azeez
>>> >
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>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
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>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
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