My $0.02:

I believe that there have been several other occasions in the Axis project in 
particular where committers were voted in purely on interest (don't recall exact 
details, but can look).  We went through a period where almost all the people involved 
in the initial project went away and we were rather desperate for new blood, and so 
voted in people with somewhat less than the usual "proving ground" period.  Perhaps we 
now have enough critical mass to be more selective, but I'm also kind of psyched to 
see more people from places other than Macromedia and IBM working on the project....

Note also that the Sonic guys *did* contribute a JMS transport, and a well-thought-out 
document about future evolution towards true asynchronous processing.  That's more 
than we've seen from some others before their votes, IIRC.

I'm still pretty much +0 on doing this right now, but it would be handy to have them 
able to maintain the JMS stuff, and I expect they'll contribute some very valuable 
stuff as they continue to work with James and the team to move Axis towards a better 
asynch architecture.  I think they'll definitely be committers sometime in the 
not-too-distant future anyway, and I would rather they feel at home and welcome since 
it came up now.

--Glen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: user id request
> 
> 
> With all due respects to everyone concerned, I would like
> to express my -1 for this mode of adding committers.
> 
> This is not my understanding how Apache works: you do the
> work first and *then* you become a committer. I don't know
> Jamie or David or Richard, so this is in no way personal,
> but AFAIK their intent to work on something does not give
> them the priviledge of committership.
> 
> If Sam or Dims or any such PMC (or board) type person still
> thinks this is an acceptable way then I automatically withdraw
> my opposition.
> 
> Sanjiva.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: user id request
> 
> 
> > James,
> > AFAIK (see 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103185126500005&r=1&w=2) there
> was a VOTE only for Dave
> > Chappell AND NOT for Jaime or Richard. Please initiate a 
> separate VOTE for
> those two.
> >
> > root,
> > Please setup id's for Dave ONLY at this time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > dims (XML-PMC)
> >
> > --- James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Can you please set up id's for the following people....
> > >
> > > Dave Chappell   [EMAIL PROTECTED]     dchappell
> > > Jaime Meritt    [EMAIL PROTECTED]       jmeritt
> > > Richard Chung   [EMAIL PROTECTED]        rchung
> > >
> > > Here's the breakdown on the votes on axis-dev
> > >
> > > +1  ==> 3
> > > +0  ==> 2
> > > -1  ==> 0
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > - James Snell
> > >      IBM Emerging Technologies
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