The 1930 census says what looks like Pd. I am assuming that that may mean "pending". I was able to find the manifest of the ship that he arrived on last night and there is a notation on it with a date of April 1938. Another researcher told me that was made by the immigration dept. My mother keeps saying that she thought is was in the late twenties but I called my aunt last night and she said she thought she was around 12 when he became a citizen and she was born in 1927. That would be right in line with the 1938 notation. She also said they had to go to San Francisco for it. There is a regional center in San Bruno which is about 15 miles south so I guess I will start there. The strange thing though, is, I have a copy of his application for a Soc Sec. number. He did that in Dec 1936. How would he have gotten a number if he wasn't a citizen yet? Maybe they didn't actually issue it until 1938? Thanks for the help Jacki
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5.35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Hi Jacki, First check the 1930 US Census to see if he was a Citizen. If he was then depending on where he lived the court that had jurisdiction at the time would have the records. Many immigrants did not apply for citizenship until the late 1930's when social security was started. At that time you had to be a US citizen to get social security. Citizen ship records could be in a state district court such as records for Attleboro, MA up till the 1940's were kept at the Taunton district Court and then transferred to the State Archives in Boston. Later records in the 1950's were done in Federal courts and are now in the Federal Archives in Waltham MA. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jacki G. Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records First, thank you all for the ideas. Rick, How would I go about finding his petition? My mother says she thinks it was somewhere around 1926 but she's not sure. The only absolute was that he was living in California in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time. The family had his birth certificate from Faial at one point, but since his and my grandmother's deaths, no one knows where it went or remembers how it was obtained. I have never seen it as it was lost long before I started my research unfortunately. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Family names: Medeiros, Machado, Pacheco, Perreira, Fernandes _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5.29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Hi Jacki If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Jacki, You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island arrivals. More info on how to do that can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html (Scroll down to "Passenger Arrival Lists.") Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from Faial yet. Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider hiring a researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships lists leaving the Azores. A list of researchers for hire can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."

