Eric, Your detective work is a classic example of a way beyond the "brick walls." I encourage everyone who has one to copy your trail and keep it handy when those difficult to find ancestors seem to be buried deep. It is examples like you that give me courage that I will find those that seem to not want to be found. Keep up the great work. Celeste, Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry [email protected] --- On Wed, 6/9/10, eric edgar <[email protected]> wrote: From: eric edgar <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:19 PM Beverly, Brick Wall, no more! By following Deolinda's sister Catherine, I located her husband obit, then used his birthdate and origin in Flores to locate his baptism in Lajedo. That was done by looking for a similar name in the Flores e Corvo marrige book. Silvestre Antonio Serpa, had the same name as his grandfather. Taking the guess that they are from the same town I located Deolinda's baptisn record on the CCA site. Then used the marriage book to build the tree. I already had some of the ancestors in my files from work on my Vieira family and a friends Xavier and Novo families from the area. So here are your people: Eric Edgar Ancestors of Deolinda Goncalves Pedro Generation No. 1 1. Deolinda Goncalves Pedro, born 19 Nov 1875 in Lajedo, Lajes das Flores, Azores; died 17 Feb 1953 in Merced County, California. She was the daughter of 2. Antonio Jose Goncalves and 3. Isabel de Jesus. Generation No. 2 2. Antonio Jose Goncalves He was the son of 4. Antonio Furtado Goncalves and 5. Isabel dos Santos. He married 3. Isabel de Jesus 22 Oct 1850 in Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Lajedo das Lajes, Azores. 3. Isabel de Jesus She was the daughter of 6. Manuel Coelho Ramos and 7. Agueda Clementina de Jesus. Child of Antonio Goncalves and Isabel de Jesus is: 1 i. Deolinda Goncalves Pedro, born 19 Nov 1875 in Lajedo, Lajes das Flores, Azores; died 17 Feb 1953 in Merced County, California. Generation No. 3 4. Antonio Furtado Goncalves He was the son of 8. Pedro Antonio Goncalves and 9. Maria Ursula. He married 5. Isabel dos Santos 11 Oct 1827 in Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Lajedo das Lajes, Azores. 5. Isabel dos Santos She was the daughter of 10. Jose Coelho Cereja and 11. Maria dos Santos. Child of Antonio Goncalves and Isabel Santos is: 2 i. Antonio Jose Goncalves, married Isabel de Jesus 22 Oct 1850 in Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Lajedo das Lajes, Azores. 6. Manuel Coelho Ramos He married 7. Agueda Clementina de Jesus 08 Mar 1823 in Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes das Flores, Azores. 7. Agueda Clementina de Jesus Child of Manuel Ramos and Agueda de Jesus is: 3 i. Isabel de Jesus, married Antonio Jose Goncalves 22 Oct 1850 in Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Lajedo das Lajes, Azores. Generation No. 4 8. Pedro Antonio Goncalves He was the son of Joao Lourenco Goncalves and Barbara Lourenco. He married 9. Maria Ursula 23 Apr 1789 in Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes das Flores, Azores. 9. Maria Ursula She was the daughter of Jose Furtado Trigueiro and Ursula Pimentel. Child of Pedro Goncalves and Maria Ursula is: 4 i. Antonio Furtado Goncalves, married Isabel dos Santos 11 Oct 1827 in Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Lajedo das Lajes, Azores. 10. Jose Coelho Cereja He was the son of Caetano Furtado Cereja and Maria Coelho. He married 11. Maria dos Santos 14 Feb 1787 in Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lajes das Flores, Azores. 11. Maria dos Santos She was the daughter of Joao Coelho Marreca and Maria de Freitas Baijinha. Child of Jose Cereja and Maria Santos is: 5 i. Isabel dos Santos, married Antonio Furtado Goncalves 11 Oct 1827 in Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Lajedo das Lajes, Azores. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:19 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: John, Count me in for the Flores Gang... I am looking for my ggranparents Antonio Goncalves & Izabel Pedro. Have no idea where they where from. My grandmothers (Diolinda Pedro Goncalves Avila) death certificate only says Flores Azores Island. My brick wall. Beverly Avilla Marcelo ----- Original Message ----- From: "eric edgar" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2010 11:08:52 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society John, We'll find the ancestors, I'm in for the Flores gang. Eric Edgar Noia, Coelho Rodrigues, Vieira Ponta Delgada, Cedros On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, John Vasconcelos <[email protected]> wrote: I've become envious of the "Ponta Garca Gang" and the "Cabral Travassos Country Club" and their good fortune in finding cousins. So I hereby establish the "Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society". We Flores people are not so fortunate as our more easterly "cousins". Flores was subject to the plunderings of Pirates and Privateers which took a toll on our ancestors and their institutions. According to historical accounts, Flores was attacked by Privateers in the mid 1600's who burned every church on the Island. As a result most records before the late 1600's were lost. Even the records on neighboring Corvo go back earlier, to the early 1600's, as I recall. The earliest documented marriage that I have discovered among my ancestors was that of Manoel Pimentel to Isabel de Freitas, Nov 26, 1692, Santa Cruz, Flores who were my 4G Grandparents (He had been married previously, in the 1680's as I recall). His parents were Domingos Nunes and Marianna Fraga, date and place of birth unknown although it was probably Santa Cruz, Flores. I would venture a guess that Marianna was related to Diogo das Chagas, whose mother was also a Fraga. Her parents were Domingos Fernandez and Catarina de Freitas. How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors? John Vasconcelos -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. 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