Cindy, Yes, Francisco is Americanized to Frank.
Arlene M ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vasconcelos To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society Cindy, Sam is on the right track. Her full name was more than likely "Maria Ursula do Coracao de Jesus" or "Maria Ursula of the (Sacred) Heart of Jesus" if you translate it literally. "Morros" is a section of Lages Flores (ie a location name). As an aside, there seem to be a lot of "Ursulas" on Flores, some of them being ancestors of mine (case in point, my 3G grandmother Ursula Pimentel.) I've always thought of Ursula as a Scandanavian or at least Northern European woman's first name (remember the actress Ursula Andres). How did it ever get to Flores? John Vasconcelos On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Cindy D <[email protected]> wrote: Arlene! This is terrific info! Margarida's birth date in this record is almost on the money, June 1879. I never had a birth day date...never found their deaths either. Anyway, family history notes that Maggie had a brother Frank. I'm guessing, but couldn't Francisco be Americanized to "Frank"?? This further indicates this is probably the right family. It gives me plenty to work with. I don't understand the naming process as Maria Ursula de Jesus has "do Coracao" in the middle. Is that a name or a place? Also, what does, "From the Morros" mean? Thanks again Arlene, this is just so wonderful as i've never been able to find anything on my Azorean past. I owe you coffee and a malasada. This gives me hope that I will be able to find more on the Pimentels. I know you'll think this is crazy but when I was a kid in the 50's my grandfather told us that his uncle Manuel Pimentel was hung for being a pirate, I don't know where or when or how as I didn't care back then, so I was really hoping to find out what that was all about some day. As a kid we blew off that story and laughed, but now I'm learning to pay attention to the family lore as eventually, I find there's usually a grain of truth in there. I find it oddly exciting to think I have a pirate ancestor! Arrr! Cindy D On Jun 14, 1:48�pm, "Arlene Marcoux" <[email protected]> wrote: > Cindy, > I found this in the book, "Familias da Ilha das Flores": > > Jos� Ant�nio Pimentel, Parents.. Ant�nio Jos� Pimentel and Maria Claudina, > married Maria Ursula do Cora�o de Jesus from S. Caetano, her parents > Ant�nio Caetano Martins and Maria Usula. �From the Morros. > Children were: �Maria b.8/6/1876; �Francisco b.8/12/1877; �Margarida > b.6/17/1879; �Ana b.2/27/1882. > > I am sorry but it does not list any other families that is connected to > them. > > Arlene M. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy D" <[email protected]> > To: "Azores Genealogy" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:07 AM > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy andDrinkingSociety > > I dug out my Flores family. �I don't have much to share, just scant > information. �I keep hoping to be connected to someone. > > Here's my Flores family: > > Margarida Ursela Pimentel, b June 1879 in Flores, immigrated alone at > age 15 to New Bedford > � �(married Jose da Silva, of San Miguel, 1897, in New Bedford who > later became Joseph S Sylvia) > > Margarida (Maggie) parents: Jose Antonia (could be Antonio) Pimentel - > Flores > � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � Maria Ursela Pimentel - > Flores > > I believe Margarida had a brother "Frank" who married Annie Martin. > > That's it. �That's all I know. �I only got that from the New Bedfored > marriage records. �I don't even know if Maggie's parents came here. > Don't know Maggie's death date yet either but my mom thinks she was > buried at St. John's in New Bedford, so I don't have a death > certificate that might have had additional information. �Maggie's > parents were both Pimentels? � Or did Maggie not know her mother's > maiden name? �I'm dead in the water on anything further. > > Cindy D > On the Kansas Plains > > On Jun 6, 11:32 pm, John Vasconcelos <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've become envious of the "Ponta Garca Gang" and the "Cabral Travassos > > Country Club" and their good fortune in finding cousins. So I hereby > > establish the "Flores Genealogy andDrinkingSociety". We Flores people > > are > > not so fortunate as our more easterly "cousins". Flores was subject to the > > plunderings of Pirates and Privateers which took a toll on our ancestors > > and > > their institutions. According to historical accounts, Flores was attacked > > by > > Privateers in the mid 1600's who burned every church on the Island. As a > > result most records before the late 1600's were lost. Even the records on > > neighboring Corvo go back earlier, to the early 1600's, as I recall. > > > The earliest documented marriage that I have discovered among my ancestors > > was that of Manoel Pimentel to Isabel de Freitas, Nov 26, 1692, Santa > > Cruz, > > Flores who were my 4G Grandparents (He had been married previously, in the > > 1680's as I recall). His parents were Domingos Nunes and Marianna Fraga, > > date and place of birth unknown although it was probably Santa Cruz, > > Flores. > > I would venture a guess that Marianna was related to Diogo das Chagas, > > whose > > mother was also a Fraga. Her parents were Domingos Fernandez and Catarina > > de > > Freitas. > > > How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors? > > John Vasconcelos > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. �Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. �Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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