Hi Maria, Thankyou for your reply, i will give you my family details as i have them, there are mistakes but i wont change anything untill i get the right ones as this is all i have after much searching. it starts with my gg grandpa Francisco J Muniz, he was a store keeper,miner, share holder in a mine,hairdresser. His daughter Lily May Beatrice Muniz was a store keeper as well , they lived in Smythesdale, Victoria,Australia. which is near Creswick,Ballarat,Bendigo area. FRANCISCO JOAQUIM MUNIZ b 1838 Sao Roque, Sao Miguel d 1899 Australia FRANCISCO CARRIEO MUNIZ b 1803 Sao Roque, Sao Miguel d Asturias Spain MARIA JOAQUINA REA b 1803 Sao Pedro,Azores FRANCISCO MUNIZ b ? d ? FRANCISCA J DE SOUSA b 1780 Sao Pedro,Azores MANUEL PACHERO DE SOUSA b 1760 Portugal MARIA FRANCISCA DE SOUSA b 1760 Portugal JOSE MACHADO DE SOUSA b 20 Nov 1727 Riberia Secca,Sao Jorge FRANCISCO DE JESUS b 9 March 1733 Riberia Secca,Sao Jorge BRAS GONCALVES BRASAO b Sao Vincente, Iha da,Medeira MARIA GOMES b Parades,Porto MANUEL PEREIRA DE LEMOS b Manadas,Sao Jorge BRIGIDA MACHADO b Ribeira Secca,Sao Jorge ANTONIO MACHADO b 7 oct 1726 ISABEL MACHADO b Acores,Aveiro ANTONIO MACHADO NUNES b Norte Grande,Sao Jorge LUIS GONCALVES b Paredes,Porto PEDRO DIAS E ALVERES b 1564 Paredes,Porto d jun 1610 Paredas,Porto FRANCISCA PEDRO b 1600 Paredes,Porto MARIA GASPAR Y GONCALVES b 1570 Paredes,Porto PEDRO ALVERES b Paredes,Porto d may 6 1590 MARIA DIAS b Paredes,Porto d 18 Dec 1588 GONCALO DO BARRIO GASPER b 1530 Paredes,Porto CATHERINA GONCALVES b 1535 Paredes,Porto d 6 may 1590 MIGUEL DIAS b ? d 30 april 1595 Paredes,Porto
This is all i have Maria, it doesnt make much sence to me because i know nothing of the islands, i am trying to find everything i can about the Azores as i want to know my gg grandfathers country and family origins Best Wishes Chris On Mar 29, 11:30 am, Maria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Chris, > > I just realized fm your post, that you did, in fact find your ancestors on > the Water Lily. WOW! So they probably knew each other. There had to be some > serious planning and money to leave the Azores for the Goldfields. As I > recall, they arrived in Melbourne and had to get transport to goldfields. > They must have had some contact with someone in Australia that took them to > Creswick area. (why not Bendigo?) > > I found the 2 Lima brothers through the Creswick and Clunes advertiser and > Reporter. That was several yrs ago; last week when I got your email, I went > back and it's more complicated now. it looks like Rootsweb has taken over- > when u enter in the name into the Creswick and Clunes site, it takes u to a > Rootsweb page. Because the 2 Lima brothers were listed 18 times in the > newspaper, -the miners took each other to court for any reason- I was able to > write and even call and got copies of the newspaper articles each time they > appeared with all the detail. That was a great day when I got that package > with all those articles. There were court cases where Jacintho was in a > fight with another guy over turning on the water race. There were ads- > especially sad when Jacintho advertised sale of His deceased wife's > fruit/confectionery store as he was leaving country. I felt he was broken > and "going home". There was a wonderful lady fm the Goldfields List > (Brenda) who helped me and was an Angel helping me. > > Give me the names of the ancestors again and I will see if they are mentioned > in any of the articles. > > It appears (fm your dates) that your ancestors remained in Australia, settled > and raised families and left a posterity- where do u tie in to them? > > My husbands gr gr grandfathers returned to the Azorws. I could not find them > leaving, though. I also believe their father and his brother in law, j j > Borges, went to Hong Kong to buy the "water race" pipes they used at the > Humbughill Sluicing Company. > > It was through a member of this list, Shirley Allegre, that I learned that > when the ancestor was being married in the Azores and the priest recorded he > was widower of Dona Carlota Augusta, buried in (?)Australia. That was the > key that sent me to the goldfields. Up to that time, it was just heresy from > my mother in law that there were 2 brothers who were goldminers in Australia. > But she did not know anything else. > > I always wished I could find more on what role the father, Antonio Jose De > Lima and Jacintho Jose Borges played in setting up the sons in business. I > know Jose spoke English and he is the one who married Charlotte Staley. It > appeared her name was not Carlota Augusta, but Charlotte Staley. Her first > husband could not be found in your Pioneer Index. > > Can u imagine that these ancestors might have known each other and shared > those experiences. > > Warm regards, > > Maria Elena > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Manoel Cesar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > There´s another link for the Arquivo dos Açores online: > > >http://www.arquivodosacores.com/index.php > > > Manoel > > > 2011/3/28 cmurray56 <[email protected]>: > >> This book is now out of copyright, avaiable to all to read , copy, > >> save etc. > > >>http://www.archive.org/stream/archivodosaores02cantgoog/archivodosaor... > > >> I cant read Portuguese but my ancestors left Azores on the ship 'Water > >> Lily' 1853 for Australia, Many thanks to Maria Elna for sharing the > >> details with me last week, due to her kindness i have found this book > >> and will share with everyone. One day i may be able to get a > >> translation of it. I hope it is of help to you all that are looking > >> for answers, the site it comes from has many books that have many > >> subjects and all books are out of copyright and are free digital > >> copies > >> Best Wishes > >> Chris > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > > membership."- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. 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