I don't see any comments. did they go on this link? Suzanne On Mar 2, 3:05 pm, "Richard Francis Pimentel" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have added my comments below > > Rick > Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator > Azores DNA Project > > Spring, Texas > > Researching Sao Miguel Azores, Riberinha, Riberia Grande, Bretanha, Achada > Grande, Ponta Delgada. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > sdarosa > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:45 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Success Lesson Learned > > Hi Richard, > Our parents are both deceased. My great grandfather (father's > grandfather) was Azorean so I am two generations removed. I couldn't figure > out what test to get. Do you need to do the family finder DNA test along > with one of the other tests or can you do it alone. > > [RFP] Is your great grandfather your direct line? In other words your > fathers, father (your grandfather), his father (your great grandfather). > Then only the Y-DNA test using your brother would show your Azorean Y-DNA if > you do the Y-DNA test. You can do only the Family Finder test if you want > or any other test by itself there is no requirement to do combined tests. > The Family Finder test would cover all your ancestors (Azorean, French, > Dutch whatever your mix is. So if you are looking for any Azorean Matches > they would be for your great-grandfather's line which is Azorean. The Family > Finder test would also look for matches in your other lines (French Dutch or > whatever). > > On the other two tests, what does the Y test show that the MtDNA does not > show? > > [RFP] The Y-DNA test shows your male line (only if you test your brother), > your father, his father, his father and so on. The Y-DNA test is useful if > you have a geographical location to match with or a consistent surname. The > MtDNA test will only show your Mother direct line (your mother, your > grandmother, your great-grandmother. The same would apply that it is useful > if you have a geographical location, surnames will not help. > > Last question. I see there are projects that match up surnames. Have you > done this & have experience with it? > > [RFP] I have not done any surname projects because of the naming customs in > the Azores. > > thanks again > Suzanne > > Does > > On Mar 2, 1:06 pm, "Richard Francis Pimentel" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is no advantage or disadvantage of testing either you or your > brother. > > Basically the DNA is the same with the family finder test as you have > > the same set of parents. If you are only looking for Azorean > > connections and you are 100% Azorean then you should test unless you > > want to try and go back > > 1 generation further then test each of your parents which would be > > twice the cost (2 tests). If only one parent is Azorean and still > > alive then I would test that parent. > > > In my case I had my father tested for two reasons 1) both his parents > > were 100% Azorean ad mine is only 50% 2) I could go back 1 generation > further. > > > Family tree DNA has sales several sales each year usually in the > > summer and around Christmas I have no dates presently for any sale. > > > The current price for the Family finder is $289 - Either you or your > > brother can take this test. > > > The Family Finder + MtDna is $339 - Either you or your brother can > > take this test. The MtDna portion will give you the line to Wilma > > Flintstone This is a savings of $50 off the basic MtDna test. > > > The Family Finder + Y-DNA is $339 - note only a male can take this > > test as women does not carry Y-DNA > > > Is that all the tests you need? - It just depends on how much > > information you need. Most people they are satisfied to have a Y-Dna, > > a MtDna and a Family finder test. I would say not to go out and get > > all the tests as the information you get may not be useful to you > > presently and if you decide to get more information you can always > > upgrade a test. Family Tree DNA keeps your DNA Sample on file for 25 > years. > > > If you go with Family Tree DNA Join the Azores DNA Project first and > > then you can order your test. > > > Rick > > Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator > > Azores DNA Project > > > Spring, Texas > > > Researching Sao Miguel Azores, Riberinha, Riberia Grande, Bretanha, > > Achada Grande, Ponta Delgada.-----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of sdarosa > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:10 PM > > To: Azores Genealogy > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Success Lesson Learned > > > I am wanting to get this testing done. > > I understand from looking into it earlier that it might be better to > > have my brother rather than me tested for a wider range of results. > > is this correct? > > I wanted to confirm this is the site everyone is > > using:http://www.familytreedna.com/ > > > Their site is a little confusing but I was wondering if anyone knows > > that if you order the package below -- is that all I need or do I need > > other tests to go with it? This is what the site says: > > Family Finder + mtDNA > > The Family Finder + mtDNA test is available to males and females. > > Order Now For $339 > > For men or women. > > Combination package of autosomal DNA test and basic mtDNA test. > > Results include everything listed for the Family Finder test, plus a > > basic maternal line test. > > mtDNA: Reach into the past through mtDNA testing to uncover the deep > > ancestral origin of your direct maternal line (your mother, your > > mother’s mother, etc.). > > > Thanks, > > Suzanne da Rosa > > > On Mar 2, 11:15 am, "Richard Francis Pimentel" > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > To add to what Cheri said and what your question was. With the > > > Y-DNA and the MtDNA test your get two lines back to Fred and Wilma > > > Flintstone. With the Family you get matches of all your ancestors in > > > the last 5-6 generations. At first I was skeptical of the Family > > > Finder > > and its worth. > > > But now seeing the results with family finder I think you get more > > > bang for the buck and the results are in a range which is > > > researchable for most researchers, especially coming from a > > > concentrated population group from the Acores. > > > > Rick > > > > Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator > > > Azores DNA Project > > > > Spring, Texas > > > > Researching Sao Miguel Azores, Riberinha, Riberia Grande, Bretanha, > > > Achada Grande, Ponta Delgada. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of Cheri Mello > > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:41 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Success Lesson Learned > > > > Background on the Family Finder test (autosomal DNA) at Family Tree > > > DNA > > > (FTDNA): > > > > For 10 or more years, the only way to utilize DNA was to test the Y > > > chromosome (the last of the 23 pairs of human chromosomes) to trace > > > the father's father's father's line. Another way was to utilize > > > what is called mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which traced the mother's > > > mother's > > mother's line. > > > Most results from mtDNA were more anthropological in nature > > > (historical, out of Africa type info). However, the first DNA match > > > made in the Azores DNA project was made with mtDNA, as both people > > > had a > > rare mutation. > > > > FTDNA did put an autosomal test on the market in the early days, but > > > pulled it, as they were unhappy with the results. Many years went > > > by as the geneticists continued to develop it. Humans have 23 pairs > > > of > > chromosomes. > > > The first 22 are autosomal and the 23rd pair is what is called the > > > sex chromosomes - making a man a man and a woman a woman. A lot of > > > work went into that 23rd pair (it was only one pair, after all), and > > > it took much much longer to work on the other 22 pairs. > > > > Here's what I wrote last year on the Family Finder (autosomal DNA) > > > test, trying to make an analogy to spaghetti. > > > > ================================================ > > > > A little over a decade ago, the only DNA that could be used for > > > genealogy was the Y-DNA or the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). About 2 > > > years ago, autosomal DNA (Family Tree DNA calls it the Family Finder > > > test) came into the picture. So now there are 3 types of DNA tests > > > for > > genealogy. > > > > I'll try this analogy (hope it works). Your DNA is like a box of > > > spaghetti. Have you ever opened a box of standard spaghetti to find > > > a stray piece of the flatter noodle (fettuccine or linguine)? Or > > > maybe a random macaroni snuck in there. > > > > The box of spaghetti represents the 22 pairs of your autosomal DNA. > > > There is only one other pair - the 23rd pair which are the sex > > > chromosomes (where the Y makes a man a man). You can pretend that's > > > the fettuccine or linguine that snuck into the box. And you can > > > pretend that the macaroni is the mitochondrial DNA. > > > > You can look at that lost piece of fettuccine or linguine and know > > > EXACTLY where it came from. It looks different than the regular > > > spaghetti. That's like the Y-chromosome which men have. We know > > > EXACTLY where a man got his Y > > > from: his father, who got it from his father who got it from his > father. > > > It's the top of your pedigree chart. Since I'm not a man, I made my > > > dad test his Y-chromosome. So I got George to Manuel to Jose to > > > Vitorino to Antonio de Mello, etc. You get the picture. So when my > > > dad gets a match, I'll know which line it is on. > > > > On the other hand, we can pretend that the piece of macaroni that > > > found its way into the spaghetti box is the mtDNA. Both men and > > > women inherit that and we know exactly how that's inherited: the > > > mother's mother's mother's line or the bottom of the pedigree chart. > > > The mtDNA is usually better used for anthropology type research more > > > than genealogy, but we've had a couple of mtDNA matches in the Azores > project. > > > > But the rest of that box is just spaghetti. They all look the same. > > > Suppose you are having a dinner party and > > ... > > read more »
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