I want to again thank all whom responded to my initial question regarding these particular notes. Looking further, 4 of the 5 sons of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina have these notes added to the margin of their baptisms. I am of the opinion that, as John Roias and Margaret Vicente suggest, they indicate either an inheritance or property claim. Denis
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Denis, I have a death record from Santa Maria of Jose de Braga > widower of Jacintha Umbelina died in Feb. 1875 . His father is Jose > Francisco de Braga de Soares mother Barbara Jacintha. . Maybe they are > yours. henrietta > > *From:* Denis Meals <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 8:04 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note > > Thanks to Ary, Dano, Elaine, and especially JR, for your collective > thoughtful replies. > > In this particular case - 4 of the 5 sons of José de Braga-Jacintha > Umbelina have the same note (different dates) attached to their baptism > records. In addition, two of these sons each have 2 similar notes. > > Notations related to death or marriage have dissimilar wording from these > notes. Passports, a possiblility. Given all the evidence, I lean toward > some sort of legalities, as suggested by JR. > Denis > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Notations could be issued for any reason, such as passport, to prove >> descendancy when making a property claim or inheritance, or for other >> legal reasons, as well as a notation for death, marriage or birth. In >> this case, most likely to obtain a passport or other legal documents >> to leave the country. There was a mass migration of Azoreans at this >> time to North America (US) and Brazil. Some even went from one island >> to another. The Braga's of Santa Maria are very old and some are of, >> or connected to noble ancestry. But you have to prove it and follow >> the line. Many Santa Maria records are in poor condition. Good Luck. >> >> JR >> >> On Mar 2, 10:27 pm, Denis Meals <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dano & Ary: >> > These notations have me completely puzzled. These are occurring in the >> > male children of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina, though I have also >> seen >> > them in other incidences, but only rarely. In the present case, these >> > notations apparently have nothing to do with the death or marriage of >> the >> > individual [see an example in my second posting, in which two like >> > notations occur for the same person]. Also, I have found the later >> > marriage of one of these boys - the marriage date far removed from the >> date >> > within his baptism note. >> > >> > Any further thoughts on what may be their meaning? >> > With much appreciation, >> > Denis >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Dano <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Denis, >> > >> > > This is a notation that a certificate was issued on 13-Ago-1894. I >> > > agree that the third digit in the year is most likely a "9." If you >> > > know that the person was born in 1843, then, the certification was >> > > likely issued in relation to his, or her, death. >> > >> > > On Mar 1, 8:30 pm, Denis Meals <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > I hope that some of our more experienced translators can help with >> the >> > > > attached margin note. >> > >> > > > This is a baptism of a child born in 1843. Something happened on 13 >> > > August >> > > > 1884 or 1894 (I think the latter date). But I can not get the >> first two >> > > > words. >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Denis >> > >> > > > Margin note.jpg >> > > > 149KViewDownload >> > >> > > -- >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > mailto:azores%[email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. >> Follow the confirmation directions >> >> > > when they arrive. >> > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No >> Mail >> > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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