Hi Chris,

 

I am not sure how things work there at the LDS but here in the states we
order the films on line and pay for them on line. The film is then sent from
Salt Lake City to the local LDS Family History Center. I would give them a
call first to find out how it works there and save a long trip for nothing.

 

I have looked up the two films I would start with from the LDS Site.
https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?di
splay=titlefilmnotes
<https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?d
isplay=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=384805&disp=Registros+paroqu
iais> &columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=384805&disp=Registros+paroquiais++  You can
go here to see the other films for Sao Roque. The information below is what
you will need to order the films.

 


Title 

Registros paroquiais, 1556-1883 


Authors 

 
<https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?d
isplay=authordetails&authorno=428772&name=Igreja+Cat%26%23xf3%3Blica%2E+S%26
%23xe3%3Bo+Roque+%28Rosto+de+C%26%23xe3%3Bo%2C+Ponta+Delgada%29%2C+null>
Igreja Católica. São Roque (Rosto de Cão, Ponta Delgada) (Main Author) 

 

 


Batismos 1804-1876 

FHL INTL Film 
1330794 

 

 


Casamentos 1622-1869 

FHL INTL Film 
1330795 Items 5-8 

 

 

Your Brother in Christ,

 

Rick

 

SK Rick Pimentel

Council 10872 – Chancellor

Assembly 2683 - Member

Spring, Texas

832-813-8111

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
chris murray
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names

 

Thankyou Rick, It is hard because in Australia we do not have access to some
records we need. There is a LDS a couple of hours away, so it will be worth
the trip to see the films. what should i ask for to be ordered?

Best Wishes Chris

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names

 

Looking at the full names my impression is that they are not related. They
may be distant cousins. 

 

I would consider immigration patterns. Many times a person would emigrate
and in his he would write home and tell his friends or relatives and they
would immigrate to the same location. In your case there are two families
from Sao Roque. For you and I am assuming you live in Australia it is
difficult as I do not know  what  resources are available and If the LDS has
any Family History Centers nearby. If there is one then you could order the
films with the church records in the Azores to search. The only other option
is to wait until the films are put on line at the CCA website.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
chris murray
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names

 

Hi Rick, Thankyou for your reply. Im sorry i should have explained the
certificates more. The marriage certificates are Australian.  There is
mistakes on Australian certs, spelling etc.  We do not have birth certs, as
the place of birth on the marriage certificates only say Sao Roque, Azores
Portugal.  We dont have an arrival date, the birth dates we have come from
the  marriage certs as well. There is doubts that the two men are brothers.
Their names are as follows, 

Francisco Joaquim Muniz b 1836 Sao Roque, Azores, Portugal  d 1899
Smythesdale,Victoria,Australia

father;  Jose Joaquia Muniz

mother; Maria Joaquina

Francisco has a different version of his name on all his 9 childrens birth
certificates

 

Manuel Carrerio Muniz b 1826 Sao Roque,Azores,Portugal  d 1882
Creswick,Victoria,Australia

father ; Manuel Francisco Carrerio Muniz

mother;  Maria Jaoquina Rea

Manuel changed his surname to Monish in Australia

 

I have tried to find this family in the Azores on this site before but
havent had any luck, thankyou for your advise  

Best Wishes

Chris

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names


Hi Chris,

First off Francisco and Jose are different.

You did not give an approximate date of these records but some of the later
records 1860 + in Sao Miguel give the names of the grandparents.

It is possible they got the father's name wrong on one of the records (I
have seen this once or twice). I would look for the birth records of both
brothers and compare information there.  Most birth records give the names
of the grandparents. 



Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
cmurray56
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:37 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names

Could some one please advise me if the following two names can be taken as
the same meaning, or are they totally different names. I have two marriage
certificates one of each belonging to two brothers. Muniz brothers from San
Roque,  on their marriage certificates their fathers first name is
different, the mothers names are the same.  Their
fathers names are ' Jose'  and the other is  'Francisco'. do these
names have the same meaning? Or would they be two different people?
Best Wishes
Chris

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