Yes, I looked at island routes and the archives at the Hawaii.gov site,
couldn't find it there.  I'm just wondering if he used another name coming
over.  It's like his last name was de Souza, some children were name Souza
Dias,  and some were just plain Souza. He was also married in 1883, I don't
know if he married in Portugal or Hawaii.  I do show they had a child name
Maria da Estrella Souza born in Portugal in 1882.

 

Thanks,

 

Gail E.

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Chuck Nostrome
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list

 

http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov/gsdl/cgi-bin/library

 

Have you checked the Hawaiian records to see if they have him listed on a
ship there?

I haven't been following your search but sometimes you can find them.

 

Good luck,

Pat Anselmo Nostrome

-----Original Message-----
From: Pam Santos <[email protected]>
To: azores <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list

Also what I did was research the siblings and check if they were
naturalized.

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Pam Santos <[email protected]> wrote:

You might not ever find him on the passenger ship list if he stowed away. My
ex's great, great grandfather stowed away on the ship in a mattress to
Hawaii 

 

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

Gail E,

I think the most common spelling around the 1880s that I see is Caetano.
But back then, not everyone was a good speller either.  Not everyone is a
good speller today! :)

Go back to the website and start with the 1875-1883 records.  Start at the
end, in 1883.  They could have immigrated Nov 1883 and the daughter born Dec
1883, so you need to check that too.  DON'T read name by name.  Look at the
right hand page.  In the middle, there's a column that say Destino
(Destination).  Look for the words "Hawaii," "Sandwich Isles,'" or
"Sandwich" anything.  And if he picked up his pen in the middle, it could
look like "San dwich" or "Sandw ich" or anything.  So don't skip over it if
it initially looks like 2 words.  

Once you find a group going to Hawaii/Sandwich islands, then scroll left,
looking for something that looks like Caetano da Souza , son of Jose da
Souza and Maria Ignacio.  Or Maria anything.  And Caetano will be in his
early 20s.

Someone with Bob de Mello's book or the Knowlton book may be able to look up
the entry for you (coming into HI).  Also, you might want to check out Mel's
Portuguese Hawaiian immigration site at www. yourislandroutes.com.  She has
an index to the book Portuguese Hawaiian Memories.  That may give you more
info. 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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