As you can the date of birth for Francisco varies from Shirley, but his is 
easily resolved on a check-up. The records are difficult in this period.

Can you send to my email address the names of the parents of the women, 
Josefa Matos. I would like to see if they are in my database already.

JR

On Monday, December 3, 2012 8:57:50 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> Shirley has him listed and Manuel de Sousa Rebelo. I am not sure where the 
> Rebelo came from? Thanks appreciate it.
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:36 PM, JR <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Below is what I have. Maria Moniz may also be Maria Nunes, although I 
>> have her as Nunes, and this explains why I was never able to link them. I 
>> have Moniz or Nunes with a question mark. I recall altering this name a few 
>> years ago and deciding on Nunes. This is another case that shows many 
>> people went to work in Furnas which came under the jurisdiction of Maia. 
>> Early Achadinha and Ponta Garca also have many pre-1700 links, but 
>> unfortunately the records are missing or do not exist.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Ancestors of Manuel José de Sousa*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Generation No. 1*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>         *1.*  *Manuel José de Sousa*  He was the son of *2. Francisco de 
>> Sousa Batata* and *3. Josefa de Matos*.  He married *(1) Josefa de Matos* 
>> **31 Oct 1779** in Vila Franca, Sao Pedro.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Generation No. 2*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>         *2.*  *Francisco de Sousa Batata,* born in Ponta Garca - NS da 
>> Piedade.  He was the son of *4. Manuel de Sousa Batata* and *5. Maria 
>> (Moniz?) or Nunes*.  He married *3. Josefa de Matos* **25 Dec 1747** in 
>> Vila Franca, Matriz.****
>>
>>         *3.*  *Josefa de Matos*****
>>
>>         ****
>>
>> Child of Francisco Sousa Batata and Josefa Matos is:****
>>
>>         1                 i.    Manuel José de Sousa, married Josefa de 
>> Matos **31 Oct 1779** in Vila Franca, Sao Pedro.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Generation No. 3*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>         *4.*  *Manuel de Sousa Batata,* born Abt. 1668 in Ponta Garca- 
>> NS da Piedade, res Furnas limit de Maia; died **28 Mar 1731** in Ponta 
>> Garca- NS da Piedade.  He was the son of Francisco de Sousa Batata and 
>> Maria Vieira.  He married *5. Maria (Moniz?) or Nunes* **15 Feb 1706**in 
>> ****Achadinha-** **NS**** do ****Rosario****.****
>>
>>         *5.*  *Maria (Moniz?) or Nunes,* born in Achadinha, res Furnas 
>> limit de Maia.  She was the daughter of Manuel de Sousa and Maria Nunes.*
>> ***
>>
>>         ****
>>
>> Children of Manuel Sousa Batata and Maria Nunes are:****
>>
>>                            i.    Manuel, born **11 Feb 1708** in Maia- 
>> Espirito Santo.****
>>
>>                           ii.    Francisco, born **03 Feb 1714** in 
>> Furnas limit de Maia- Espirito Santo.****
>>
>>                          iii.    Francisco, born **23 Feb 1716** in 
>> Maia- Espirito Santo.****
>>
>>                          iv.    Francisco, born **13 Sep 1724** in Ponta 
>> Garca- NS da Piedade.****
>>
>>                           v.    Mariana, born **21 Jun 1729** in Ponta 
>> Garca- NS da Piedade.****
>>
>>                          vi.    Pedro de Sousa Rebola, born Abt. 1725 in 
>> Ponta Garca - NS da Piedade; married Maria de Melo Fernandes 02 Jan 1752 in 
>> Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; born 22 Dec 1726 in Vila Franca do Campo- 
>> Matriz.****
>>
>>         2              vii.    Francisco de Sousa Batata, born in Ponta 
>> Garca - NS da Piedade; married Josefa de Matos **25 Dec 1747** in Vila 
>> Franca, Matriz.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Monday, December 3, 2012 6:30:32 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, based on your info, I think I may have the answer or at some info to 
>>> help cement this line. Unfortunately, I have to go out right now. Will post 
>>> soon.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 3, 2012 3:04:27 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cheri that is the brother of our Pedro de Sousa who was married to 
>>>> Maria Fernandes Melo (or Maria Melo Fernandes).
>>>>
>>>> Francisco de Sousa Batata married on 25 Sep 1747 in SM Vila Franca do 
>>>> Campo.  They were the children of Manuel de Sousa and Maria Moniz. 
>>>> According to Shirley Francisco was born 13 Sep 1725 in Ponta Garca.  We 
>>>> are 
>>>> still trying to find parents, Shirley has looked in Ponta Garca with no 
>>>> luck
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Repost for Joe Muddman, joe.muddman at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> hi joe.I have a Francisco de sousa batata born in ponta garca and 
>>>>> married 
>>>>> to Josefa de Matos 25 Dec 1747 
>>>>> at Matriz Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>>> their son was Manuel José de Sousa married 31 Oct 1779 
>>>>> at S. Pedro, Vila Franca do Campo to Josefa de Matos.Francisco is the 
>>>>> only 
>>>>> name with the alcunha (batata) 
>>>>>
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