Hi Doug,

Oh yes, the 10-book Genealogias da Ilha Terceira. I don't have that book, 
as my wife's ancestors don't come from Terceira. I do have the 4-book 
Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas where indeed a lot of living people are 
listed. Some were still being breast fed when it was published.

I do think that the science clause,applies, but it's slightly different. In 
Portugal (and in the rest of the world), they're still struggling on the 
difference between paper and digital. The former is free speech, and you 
can't censor that without good reason. The tables turn in the case of data 
and databases. On the data front, there's this privacy comission I 
mentioned (CNPD) that regulates the distribution of any private data. In 
the end it's all the same, but the line can easily grow thin in the case of 
ebooks (which is what the 10vol GdIT and 4vol Gd4I should have been, 
instead of being so massive and expensive).

As an aside, I do firmly believe that these books have heavy contributions 
by people, which simply contribute their whole GEDCOM without realizing 
their young cousins will make it onto a printed book. Unfortunately, it 
also leads to some simple errors which shouldn't be committed by 
genealogists of such renown. I've got a case of a woman (ancestor to my 
wife and my kids) being a mother at 76yrs back in the 1700s.

João C. Ventura

On Friday, December 20, 2013 12:08:36 AM UTC+1, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:
>
> Ola Joao,
>
> Like many things, I learn by example. My cousins in Angra, all living, 
> have more than one book that shows all their family trees published by 
> Forjaz.
>
> But like  you said, it's OK because it's science, I suppose.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Putting our research on Ancestry
> From: João_Ventura <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> Date: Thu, December 19, 2013 3:48 pm
> To: [email protected] <javascript:>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Where did you get the idea that recent information is published?? By law, 
> only data that's more than 100 years old is being made available. The rest 
> is all in the civil parishes, where you have a sort of 'FOIA' right to 
> request a copy of any vital record, but I wouldn't call it publishing...
>  
> Then again, you might think that 100 years is recent. Granted I do believe 
> I'm younger that you :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Joao C. Ventura
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:16:23 PM UTC+1, Doug da Rocha Holmes 
> wrote:
>>
>> I like the way the more recent information is treated in Portugal - i.e. 
>> they publish it.
>> So I agree with Hermano and JM.
>>
>> Yea, I know there are potential risks with posting information on living 
>> people, but if you think about it, how is that worse than what the NSA does 
>> in collecting every scrap of information for their future chance to arrest 
>> you for something real or imagined?
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Putting our research on Ancestry
>> From: "Hermano C. Pires" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thu, December 19, 2013 2:54 pm
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>
>> For my own reasons I do agree with you JM
>>  
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:39:16 -0800
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Putting our research on Ancestry
>>
>> I am on ancestry.com w/family trees for Medeiros (father) Roque (mother)
>> My trees are up to anyone who wants to see it
>> I do not want anyone touching my trees and changing anything, I have to 
>> check settings
>> My trees are what they are
>> All family that I know, living or dead
>> One question, which is a pet peeve of mine when seeing other peoples 
>> trees 
>> Why the private on the living?
>>
>> JM
>>
>>   --  
>  
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