Doug, I agree, that marriage of 1st degree consanguinity, includes 
Father/Daughter, Mother/Son, and Grandparents/Grandchildren, as well as 
siblings (not sure that the uncle/niece, aunt/nephew is 1st or 2nd), would 
be banned by the Church as incest - especially in conservative Portugal, 
and, the Azores. 

On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:27:21 PM UTC-4, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:

> I won't believe that until I see it.
> I think it must have been 1st and 2nd mixed - uncle/niece.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] first degree of consanguinity
> From: Cheri Mello <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> Date: Sat, April 05, 2014 9:38 am
> To: Azores Genealogy <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>
> I've seen one 1st degree of consanguinity.  I think Eloise sent it to me a 
> long time ago.  
>
> In my college courses I don't remember any society marrying siblings.  At 
> least in Western culture.  Cleopatra married her brother.  Isn't that 
> ancient history?  I don't remember.  Our studies didn't go back that far.  
>
> At any rate, Portugal allowed siblings to marry?  
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:57 AM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Of course. And that's why you don't ever see a 1st degree connection 
>> getting married.
>>
>> Frankly, it's surprising to me 1st and 2nd degree was ever allowed. Maybe 
>> it was a way to generate more money by the church, so they allowed it? I'm 
>> assuming they had to pay a bigger fee for dispensation, but it's possible 
>> even poor people could get it free.
>>
>> I'm changing the subject to reflect this discussion. Look for the 
>> previous comments under the subject "Help with baptism from Ponta Garca."
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism from Ponta Garca
>> From: Cheri Mello <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>> Date: Sat, April 05, 2014 8:49 am
>> To: Azores Genealogy <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>>
>> I thought a brother marrying a sister was forbidden by law in most 
>> countries and considered incest?  So what is incest in the Azores and 
>> Portugal?
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello 
>>  
>>  -- 
>>
>  

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