i have seen in old baptism records in Relva the mention of "coitus 
damnatus".

Manoel

Em sábado, 5 de abril de 2014 20h04min20s UTC-3, John Raposo escreveu:
>
> For what it is worth, in all of my experience researching Azorean 
> genealogy, I have never found a marriage among siblings, not even among 
> half-siblings. I have found marriages between uncle and niece and aunt and 
> nephew, rare in number, but existing nevertheless.
>
> " Incest" is defined within a cultural context. Here in Massachusetts 
> Yankees think that marriage between first cousins among Azoreans is yukky. 
> But marriage between first cousins is perfectly legal in Massachusetts and 
> if you traced the genealogies of the Braytons and Durfees you find that 
> marriage to first cousins, often in succeeding generations, among Yankee 
> farmers and cotton mill owners, was the rule, not the exception.
>
> John
>   On Saturday, April 5, 2014 6:19 PM, Dano <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>  Anthony, I admit that Church Law was flouted on a few occasions, mostly 
> in England, but the Church dealt with that harshly, as evidenced by the 
> establishment of the Inquisition. Europe was the Church's domain for the 
> better part of the last millennium.The Church takes its laws very 
> seriously. What happened in Hawaii was beyond Church law, and not 
> within the Church's domain, but, all the same, Christian missionaries 
> preached against those same native customs to which you refer. Have you not 
> seen the film Hawaii, nor read the book, by the same name, written by James 
> Michener - upon which the film was based? Perhaps you should.
>
> On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40:45 PM UTC-4, Antonio Faria wrote:
>
> The incest taboo among siblings has been exempt among royalty of various 
> cultures throughout history, one example being the royal Hawaiian families 
> in fact it was encouraged they believe such unions produces superiors 
> specimens.
>
> On Saturday, April 5, 2014 8:57:25 AM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:
>
> Of course. And that's why you don't ever see a 1st degree connection 
> getting married.
>
> Frankly, it's surprising to me 1st and 2nd degree was ever allowed. Maybe 
> it was a way to generate more money by the church, so they allowed it? I'm 
> assuming they had to pay a bigger fee for dispensation, but it's possible 
> even poor people could get it free.
>
> I'm changing the subject to reflect this discussion. Look for the previous 
> comments under the subject "Help with baptism from Ponta Garca."
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism from Ponta Garca
> From: Cheri Mello <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, April 05, 2014 8:49 am
> To: Azores Genealogy <[email protected]>
>
> I thought a brother marrying a sister was forbidden by law in most 
> countries and considered incest?  So what is incest in the Azores and 
> Portugal?
>
>
> Cheri Mello 
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