Nancy Jean,
I sympathize with you! I feel the same about the connections. I should have
tested my Mom too and now it’s too late. The hard thing for me is that Kenneth
Silva is connected to me on my grandmother’s side and also the grandfather’s
side! double cousin but a generation off. He also is not really a Silva but a
Silveira! All of the brothers that came her chopped it down to Silva but in the
Old Country is really Silveira de Azevedo! Why did they do this, who knows but
it is making the trail so hard for us to follow!
Talk to you again soon, Prima!
Prima, Rosemarie
From: nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 9:14 AM
To: azores group
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Hi Rosemarie,
I know exactly what you mean with the frustration regarding good paper trails
and can't find the connection! Especially frustrating on the 2nd to 3rd cousin
ones! I see clues in the gedcoms but nothing definitive....in truth I think
it's right in front of my eyes but I just don't know it due to our ancestral
habit of adopting whatever name they may fancy at the time. I never knew my
ggrandfather, Manuel Furtado Cardoso used any other name until looking at the
baptisms of his children on CCA and discovering that on one of them he used his
fathers name of Silva.....which 2 of his brothers used in the states although
he never did. So many of my matches list surnames that match mine....especially
Cardoso, Silva, Gracia, Andrade, Castro and on and on......I see the Veira name
which is one of the names my brick wall grandfather, Jose Enos used....along
with 3 other surnames he used!
My biggest regret with this DNA stuff is that I tested my own MTDNA instead of
my mothers......at the time I tested there wasn't any Family Finder and I never
thought I'd need moms......alas, now it's too late and I can see it would have
been a wealth of knowledge......it also would have proven or disproven what
I've come to suspect, that my mom and dad may have been distant cousins without
knowing it! There are so many shades of grey that would be cleared up by
that....at least I think they would. If they only had NO interisland connection
I could eliminate better...but all of mom's people were from Sao Jorge EXCEPT
her paternal grandmother who was from Pico and we think was a Gracia.....so
that gives her a potential Pico connection....all of dads people were from Pico
and Santa Maria EXCEPT his paternal grandfather who was from Sao Jorge! Oh
dear.......
Well, I'll never suffer from boredom since they'll always be another mystery to
search.
Also, I see you are the contact for Kenneth Silva who shows up as 4th-remote on
my Uncle John Baptiste.....but not on me.....yet you show up on me as 5th
-remote but not to Uncle John.....
Best to you my cousin!
Nancy Jean
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From: rcap...@redshift.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 08:25:36 -0700
Nancy Jean, I connect to Buzzie and Dennis Wilbert Silva too. So, this would
mean that we are ‘in common with’ each other and Fawn. If we could just figure
this out, so frustrating to have a large paper trail and still not connect!
Rosemarie
From: nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 7:58 AM
To: azores group
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Hi Fawn,
I hope your father is improving.
Both myself and my Uncle John Cardoza Baptiste match Buzzie Mendonca.....he
shows as 4th -remote match to me and 5th-remote to my uncle.....I would have
thought it would be just the opposite since Uncle John's a generation earlier.
I noticed you are the contact for Dennis Wilbert Silva who is a 4th-remote
match to me but not to my uncle.
Best regards,
Nancy Jean
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:52:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
From: 2sil...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
A belated thank you to those who helped me with this. My father had a stroke &
I am in CA caring for him & my mother & I failed to thank you for your help and
ideas.
Mary & Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us & is on the site
as Buzzie Mendonca. My husband has a number of family lines that link to
Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande.
Thanks again,
Fawn Silva
St. Louis, MO
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to
Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I haven't
noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, John
Baptiste.....except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote.
Nancy Jean
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
From: busybo...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the
child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de
Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt.
I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a
DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't
see an immediate connection to these people. :)
Mary
On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that....
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html
Thank you, Doug and Antonio.
Fawn Silva
St. Louis, MO
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for
Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais & Barbara Joaquina
Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 & I think baptized
on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says & google translate is
absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this
child die? I checked the obitos & could not find him. Why was he baptized in
the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg.
Help! Please.
Thanks,
Fawn Silva
St. Louis, MO
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