Nancy Jean...did you know that my maiden name was Lemos.  My ancestors are from 
Sao Jorge and were Machado there and then Machado de Lemos.  Most of my family 
was from Velas on Sao Jorge.  Rosemarie and I have a connection so I'm thinking 
that maybe you and I do as well?

Edna (dave-e...@comcast.net
Oh, that men would give thanks to the LORD for His goodness, and for His 
wonderful works to the children of men!
Psalm 107:21

On Apr 26, 2014, at 3:58 PM, rcapodc <rcap...@redshift.com> wrote:

> Nancy Jean,
>  
> We'll just keep on truckin and fleshing out the lines. We are bound to find a 
> connection at some point (hopefully!).
>  
> Rosemarie
>  
> From: nancy jean baptiste
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: azores group
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
>  
> Hi Rosemarie,
>  
> I have many Silveira in my Sao Jorge lines....both mom's and dad's. My mom's 
> were always Silveira de Lemos  until coming to the staes when they became 
> just Lemos. My dads fathers line were Silveira Leonardes and just Silveira. I 
> still feel like our connection is in the de Lemos line but since mine were 
> from Rosais and yours Norte Grande who knows....however, I recently found one 
> of my lines in Norte Grande....not de Lemos though, at least not apparently.
>  
> Nancy Jean
>  
> From: rcap...@redshift.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:20:23 -0700
> 
> Nancy Jean,
>  
> I sympathize with you! I feel the same about the connections. I should have 
> tested my Mom too and now it's too late. The hard thing for me is that 
> Kenneth Silva is connected to me on my grandmother's side and also the 
> grandfather's side! double cousin but a generation off. He also is not really 
> a Silva but a Silveira! All of the brothers that came her chopped it down to 
> Silva but in the Old Country is really Silveira de Azevedo! Why did they do 
> this, who knows but it is making the trail so hard for us to follow! 
>  
> Talk to you again soon, Prima!
> Prima, Rosemarie
>  
> From: nancy jean baptiste
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 9:14 AM
> To: azores group
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
>  
> Hi Rosemarie,
>  
> I know exactly what you mean with the frustration regarding good paper trails 
> and can't find the connection! Especially frustrating on the 2nd to 3rd 
> cousin ones! I see clues in the gedcoms but nothing definitive....in truth I 
> think it's right in front of my eyes but I just don't know it due to our 
> ancestral habit of adopting whatever name they may fancy at the time. I never 
> knew my ggrandfather, Manuel Furtado Cardoso used any other name until 
> looking at the baptisms of his children on CCA and discovering that on one of 
> them he used his fathers name of Silva.....which 2 of his brothers used in 
> the states although he never did. So many of my matches list surnames that 
> match mine....especially Cardoso, Silva, Gracia, Andrade, Castro and on and 
> on......I see the Veira name which is one of the names my brick wall 
> grandfather, Jose Enos used....along with 3 other surnames he used!
>  
> My biggest regret with this DNA stuff is that I tested my own MTDNA instead 
> of my mothers......at the time I tested there wasn't any Family Finder and I 
> never thought I'd need moms......alas, now it's too late and I can see it 
> would have been a wealth of knowledge......it also would have proven or 
> disproven what I've come to suspect, that my mom and dad may have been 
> distant cousins without knowing it! There are so many shades of grey that 
> would be cleared up by that....at least I think they would. If they only had 
> NO interisland connection I could eliminate better...but all of mom's people 
> were from Sao Jorge EXCEPT her paternal grandmother who was from Pico and we 
> think was a Gracia.....so that gives her a potential Pico connection....all 
> of dads people were from Pico and Santa Maria EXCEPT his paternal grandfather 
> who was from Sao Jorge! Oh dear.......
>  
> Well, I'll never suffer from boredom since they'll always be another mystery 
> to search.
>  
> Also, I see you are the contact for Kenneth Silva who shows up as 4th-remote 
> on my Uncle John Baptiste.....but not on me.....yet you show up on me as 5th 
> -remote but not to Uncle John.....
>  
> Best to you my cousin!
>  
> Nancy Jean
>  
> From: rcap...@redshift.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 08:25:36 -0700
> 
> Nancy Jean, I connect to Buzzie and Dennis Wilbert Silva too. So, this would 
> mean that we are 'in common with' each other and Fawn. If we could just 
> figure this out, so frustrating to have a large paper trail and still not 
> connect!
>  
> Rosemarie
>  
>  
> From: nancy jean baptiste
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 7:58 AM
> To: azores group
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
>  
> Hi Fawn,
>  
> I hope your father is improving.
>  
> Both myself and my Uncle John Cardoza Baptiste match Buzzie Mendonca.....he 
> shows as 4th -remote match to me and 5th-remote to my uncle.....I would have 
> thought it would be just the opposite since Uncle John's a generation 
> earlier. I noticed you are the contact for Dennis Wilbert Silva who is a 
> 4th-remote match to me but not to my uncle.
>  
> Best regards,
> Nancy Jean
>  
> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:52:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
> From: 2sil...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> A belated thank you to those who helped me with this.  My father had a stroke 
> & I am in CA caring for him & my mother & I failed to thank you for your help 
> and ideas.
>  
> Mary & Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us & is on the 
> site as Buzzie Mendonca.  My husband has a number of family lines that link 
> to Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande.
>  
> Thanks again,
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, nancy jean baptiste 
> <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to 
> Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I 
> haven't noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, 
> John Baptiste.....except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote.
>  
> Nancy Jean
>  
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
> From: busybo...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the 
> child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de 
> Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. 
>  
> I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a 
> DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't 
> see an immediate connection to these people. :)
>  
> Mary
> 
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry.  I forgot to include the link on that....
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html
>  
> Thank you, Doug and Antonio.
>  
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site.  It is for 
> Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais & Barbara Joaquina 
> Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 & I think baptized 
> on the 29th in the home.  I don't know what the rest says & google translate 
> is absolutely no help on this one.  I see witnesses but no padrinhos.  Did 
> this child die?  I checked the obitos & could not find him. Why was he 
> baptized in the home?  The baptism is on the top left of the pg.
>  
> Help!  Please.
>  
> Thanks,
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
>  
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