There is no paterno because the priest does not know who they are. Maria was born as stated Dec 15- 1816, bap- Dec 17 of same year. She is filha de Maria Francisca solteira, e pai nao sabido, netta materno de Raymundo de Medeiros e Francisca dos Anjos, ja defuntos naturais do lugar de Ginetes fraguesia de Sao Sebastiao. It also states Maria is being baptised in the said parish of NS da Conceicao, Mosteiros, and that her mother, Maria Francisca, is also a native of Mosteiros. The godfather is Jose Pra (Pereira) de Figrdo (Figueiredo), sui juris. Cura was Jose Ignacio Rapozo and the witnesses were Joaquim Joze de Vasconcellos and Joam Pavam da Silva. Maria was born 1816 not 1716. The previous entry says 1816, and following entry clearly shows 1817 on the margin, a common entry by priests to indicate when the year begins.
Doesn't add much that you don't know, but hopefully things are clearer. JR On Saturday, July 5, 2014 3:48:23 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > > *Hi Melody,* > > > > *I agree the date is 1815. “pai nao sabido” is just another way of writing > “pai incognito” * > > > > *I noticed the writer mad several mistakes and corrected himself “digo” > so it does not surprise me that he wrote paterno instead of materno.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Epping, NH* > > > > > > *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *IslandRoutes > *Sent:* Saturday, July 5, 2014 2:25 PM > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Record in the wrong year (Mosteiros)? > > > > I have been working more on my cousin's Raposo line. I have found > Francisco Raposo's baptismal and now can prove he and Manoel Raposo are > brothers (mother and grandmother match). The baptismals for this era are > indexed in Mosteiros. As I was going through looking for Francisco's, I > found this one: Francisco parent: Maria Francisca and Pai Incognito. > This caught my eye because Manoel's grandmother was Maria Francisca who was > also single. > > The record I found was in the middle of 1836, which was too early for the > Maria Francisca that I am looking for. However, am I reading the date > right? It says Mil Outo Centos e Quinze -- 1815? There is a note at the > end that seems to say that the entry was archived 5 March 1836. I want to > make sure because I've been tricked by numbers before. If that is right, > there is a slight possibility this is a sibling of Maria Jacintha, mother > of Manoel and Francisco. More work would have to be done to prove that > connection. Though it references Ginetes, which fits what I found on > Manoel Raposo's baptismal record. > > Also curious is this is a Pai nao sabido...Does this translate the same as > Pai Incognito? The reason I ask is the follows with "Neto Paterno Rajmundo > de Medeiros and Francisca dos Anjos". Did the writer mess up and write > Paterno instead of Materno (the Materno is missing) or could they have > named the maternal grandparents without actually naming the father? > > Here is the entry: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-B-1826-1843/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-B-1826-1843_item1/P96.html > > This has been the trickiest research trail that I've followed in a long > time! > > Thanks for the help! > Mel > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
