Sorry, I didn't realize you were discussing two different records. But what I wrote holds for Maria.
JR On Saturday, July 5, 2014 8:39:16 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: > > There is no paterno because the priest does not know who they are. Maria > was born as stated Dec 15- 1816, bap- Dec 17 of same year. She is filha de > Maria Francisca solteira, e pai nao sabido, netta materno de Raymundo de > Medeiros e Francisca dos Anjos, ja defuntos naturais do lugar de Ginetes > fraguesia de Sao Sebastiao. It also states Maria is being baptised in the > said parish of NS da Conceicao, Mosteiros, and that her mother, Maria > Francisca, is also a native of Mosteiros. The godfather is Jose Pra > (Pereira) de Figrdo (Figueiredo), sui juris. Cura was Jose Ignacio Rapozo > and the witnesses were Joaquim Joze de Vasconcellos and Joam Pavam da > Silva. Maria was born 1816 not 1716. The previous entry says 1816, and > following entry clearly shows 1817 on the margin, a common entry by priests > to indicate when the year begins. > > Doesn't add much that you don't know, but hopefully things are clearer. > > JR > > On Saturday, July 5, 2014 3:48:23 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: >> >> *Hi Melody,* >> >> >> >> *I agree the date is 1815. “pai nao sabido” is just another way of >> writing “pai incognito” * >> >> >> >> *I noticed the writer mad several mistakes and corrected himself “digo” >> so it does not surprise me that he wrote paterno instead of materno.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Epping, NH* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *IslandRoutes >> *Sent:* Saturday, July 5, 2014 2:25 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Record in the wrong year (Mosteiros)? >> >> >> >> I have been working more on my cousin's Raposo line. I have found >> Francisco Raposo's baptismal and now can prove he and Manoel Raposo are >> brothers (mother and grandmother match). The baptismals for this era are >> indexed in Mosteiros. As I was going through looking for Francisco's, I >> found this one: Francisco parent: Maria Francisca and Pai Incognito. >> This caught my eye because Manoel's grandmother was Maria Francisca who was >> also single. >> >> The record I found was in the middle of 1836, which was too early for the >> Maria Francisca that I am looking for. However, am I reading the date >> right? It says Mil Outo Centos e Quinze -- 1815? There is a note at the >> end that seems to say that the entry was archived 5 March 1836. I want to >> make sure because I've been tricked by numbers before. If that is right, >> there is a slight possibility this is a sibling of Maria Jacintha, mother >> of Manoel and Francisco. More work would have to be done to prove that >> connection. Though it references Ginetes, which fits what I found on >> Manoel Raposo's baptismal record. >> >> Also curious is this is a Pai nao sabido...Does this translate the same >> as Pai Incognito? The reason I ask is the follows with "Neto Paterno >> Rajmundo de Medeiros and Francisca dos Anjos". Did the writer mess up and >> write Paterno instead of Materno (the Materno is missing) or could they >> have named the maternal grandparents without actually naming the father? >> >> Here is the entry: >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-B-1826-1843/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-B-1826-1843_item1/P96.html >> >> This has been the trickiest research trail that I've followed in a long >> time! >> >> Thanks for the help! >> Mel >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
