Alexandre and Madalena are actually from Candelaria, Pico and I am trying to trace them as they are my ancestors. The marriage record seems to be more solid than what is on NEPS so I am trying to use it and gather as much as possible from the contents. I never “rely” on NEPS.
Diane From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada This line is completely botched thanks to NEPS. If anyone has ancestors from Feteira, you need to do your own research and ignore the "information" given so nicely to you by NEPS. A perfect case of "caveat emptor" (buyer beware). Or have fun tracing all the wrong ancestors. You'll spend more time trying to figure out this mess than actually tracing your own ancestors. In other words, this golden platter came with a Trojan horse. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico & Terceira Genealogist ============================================= Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] ============================================= -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada From: Diane George < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 2:53 pm To: < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Hi, I have located a marriage record and am having a little uncertainty with the translation. I can pick out the names as follows: Date of Marriage: 10 January 1724 Groom: Alexandre Ferreira, son of Manuel Ferreira and his wife, Catharina Garcia. Bride: Madalena Furtada, daughter of Manuel Goularte and Maria Furtada. The record is at <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752_item1/P13.html> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752_item1/P13.html and is the only full record on the right page. Is there any information in the record about the ages of the parents? The reason I am trying to locate that information is that in the NEPS database, Alexandre and Madalena are shown as the parents of Francisca, but with birthdates in 1668 and 1666, respectively and with a different set of parents for both. (Alexandre, <http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre;n=ferreira> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre;n=ferreira and Madalena, <http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=madalena;n=furtado;oc=1> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=madalena;n=furtado;oc=1.) It doesn’t sound likely that the NEPS information is correct as they would be 56 and 58 years old at the time of the marriage and 61 and 63 at the birth of the last child. There are no baptism records for the period from 1692 to 1705 for Candelaria on the CCA site. Is it possible the records are somewhere else or just haven’t been uploaded yet. I have also located birth records for three children of what appears to be the same couple, the children being: Bartolomeu, born 20 August 1724, <http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P29.html> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P29.html, top entry on the right page. Francisca, born 7 November 1726, <http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P43.html> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P43.html, third entry on right page. I believe that she is my 5th great-grandmother. Francisco, born 4 March 1729, <http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P60.html> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P60.html, second entry on the right page. The children’s birthdates are consistent with the marriage date. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at <http://groups.google.com/group/Azores> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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