Doug, Marriages begin around 1718 and deaths around 1805.
Gayle > On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Diane, > > Based on the Feteira link, I think your ancestor is Antonio Silveira and you > are are basing your link to these Candelaria ancestors on what NEPS tells you. > > The direct link to Antonio Silveira is this: > http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=antonio;n=silveira;oc=9 > > If you look at the baptism of his twins in 1804, for example, you see he is > not native of Candelaria, Pico. > That is the exact place where Helder Oliveira went wrong when he made this > NEPS database. Funny thing is that they connect to his own Oliveira line, > too, and he still got it wrong. > > So if these people in Candelaria are yours based on this ancestor Antonio, > then no, these are not your ancestors. But you do have other Pico ancestors > who might lead to them, I suppose. Just not from this particular Antonio > Silveira. > > And yes, like another said, there is that gap in baptisms for Candelaria and > no marriages either. And deaths don't start until about 1815, if I recall. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > ============================================= > Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores > Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. > Write me here for more info: [email protected] > ============================================= > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for > Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada > From: Diane George <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 5:34 pm > To: <[email protected]> > > Alexandre and Madalena are actually from Candelaria, Pico and I am trying to > trace them as they are my ancestors. The marriage record seems to be more > solid than what is on NEPS so I am trying to use it and gather as much as > possible from the contents. I never “rely” on NEPS. > > Diane > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre > Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada > > This line is completely botched thanks to NEPS. > > If anyone has ancestors from Feteira, you need to do your own research and > ignore the "information" given so nicely to you by NEPS. A perfect case of > "caveat emptor" (buyer beware). Or have fun tracing all the wrong ancestors. > > You'll spend more time trying to figure out this mess than actually tracing > your own ancestors. > > In other words, this golden platter came with a Trojan horse. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > ============================================= > Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores > Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. > Write me here for more info: [email protected] > ============================================= > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre > Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada > From: Diane George <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 2:53 pm > To: <[email protected]> > Hi, > > I have located a marriage record and am having a little uncertainty with the > translation. I can pick out the names as follows: > > Date of Marriage: 10 January 1724 > Groom: Alexandre Ferreira, son of Manuel Ferreira and his wife, Catharina > Garcia. > Bride: Madalena Furtada, daughter of Manuel Goularte and Maria Furtada. > > The record is at > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752_item1/P13.html > and is the only full record on the right page. Is there any information in > the record about the ages of the parents? The reason I am trying to locate > that information is that in the NEPS database, Alexandre and Madalena are > shown as the parents of Francisca, but with birthdates in 1668 and 1666, > respectively and with a different set of parents for both. (Alexandre, > http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre;n=ferreira > and Madalena, > http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=madalena;n=furtado;oc=1.) > It doesn’t sound likely that the NEPS information is correct as they would > be 56 and 58 years old at the time of the marriage and 61 and 63 at the birth > of the last child. > > There are no baptism records for the period from 1692 to 1705 for Candelaria > on the CCA site. Is it possible the records are somewhere else or just > haven’t been uploaded yet. > > I have also located birth records for three children of what appears to be > the same couple, the children being: > > Bartolomeu, born 20 August 1724, > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P29.html, > top entry on the right page. > > Francisca, born 7 November 1726, > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P43.html, > third entry on right page. I believe that she is my 5th great-grandmother. > > Francisco, born 4 March 1729, > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P60.html, > second entry on the right page. > > The children’s birthdates are consistent with the marriage date. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Diane George > > -- > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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