Filomena baptism 1850

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P135.html


Eric

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote:

> The obit you originally posted shows her as Isabel Thomasia.
>
> The 1841 birth record for Jose shows her as Isabel de Jesus
>
> There is an 1850 record for a Filomena Carneiro in Santa Cruz born to
> Joaquin Pimentel Valldao and Marianna Julia, maternos are Joao Pimentel
> Carneiro and Anna Maria.
>
> I don't have the exact date.
>
> Did you get my results on the Anthony Sears Recording search?
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I know you're scrupulous, but I just want to be sure about the death
>> identities for the following reasons:
>>
>> These two deaths are a major find because it means my great grandmother,
>> Filomena b. 1851, cannot be their daughter, yet I have constructed my
>> descendants around this assumption. (Talk about shaking a big tree).
>>
>> That is, they can't be her parents since José Tomás Pimentel Carneiro
>> died on ? Jun 1844 and his wife Isabel de Jesus (Isabel Tomásia) died 16
>> Apr 1850.
>>
>> Indeed, my family records have always disagreed with this parentage (plus
>> I've never been able to find Filomena's baptism record). I had been
>> persuaded by other genealogical sources when I first started in 2012.
>>
>> Now eliminating Jose and Isabel as Filomena's parents fits with a revised
>> scenario since I'm somewhat confident that I have found Filomena's real
>> parents recently.
>>
>> However, I found no records in which Isabel de Jesus is listed as Isabel
>> Thomasia. I found three children for her as Isabel de Jesus:
>>
>> Maria (Maria Isabel Carneiro Thomas)
>> b. 9? Nov 1833  Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores
>> d. 3 Oct 1927  Contra Costa County, California
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P107.html
>>
>> Manuel (Manuel T Thomas)
>> b. 28 Nov 1837  Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores
>> d. 1920  Antioch, Contra Costa, California
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P154.html
>>
>> Jose
>> b. 4 Jul 1841  Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores
>> d. unknown
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P194.html
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Steve
>>
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