Eric,

For some reason I cannot see any posting in this thread containing "Did you 
get my results on the Anthony Sears Recording search?" except below in your 
own posting. Maybe it's a browser issue, but who is Anthony Sears?

As for the Filomena baptism 1850 you refer to, I don't see how that could 
be her because the parents and grandparents are entirely different people:

Filomena
b. 27 Dec 1850
Joaquim Pimentel Carneiro
     Joao Pimentel Carneiro
     Ana Maria
Mariana Julia
     Joao Pimentel Valadao
     Maria de Jesus
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P135.html

In addition, I can find no records where Isabel de Jesus is referred to as 
Isabel Tomasia, except in her death record -- true?

Steve

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:13:10 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote:
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> Filomena baptism 1850
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> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P135.html
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> Eric 
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> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> The obit you originally posted shows her as Isabel Thomasia. 
>>
>> The 1841 birth record for Jose shows her as Isabel de Jesus
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>> There is an 1850 record for a Filomena Carneiro in Santa Cruz born to 
>> Joaquin Pimentel Valldao and Marianna Julia, maternos are Joao Pimentel 
>> Carneiro and Anna Maria. 
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>> I don't have the exact date. 
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>> Did you get my results on the Anthony Sears Recording search?
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>> Eric 
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>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Steve <[email protected] <javascript:>
>> > wrote:
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>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> I know you’re scrupulous, but I just want to be sure about the death 
>>> identities for the following reasons:
>>>
>>> These two deaths are a major find because it means my great grandmother, 
>>> Filomena b. 1851, cannot be their daughter, yet I have constructed my 
>>> descendants around this assumption. (Talk about shaking a big tree).
>>>
>>> That is, they can’t be her parents since José Tomás Pimentel Carneiro 
>>> died on ? Jun 1844 and his wife Isabel de Jesus (Isabel Tomásia) died 16 
>>> Apr 1850.
>>>
>>> Indeed, my family records have always disagreed with this parentage 
>>> (plus I’ve never been able to find Filomena’s baptism record). I had been 
>>> persuaded by other genealogical sources when I first started in 2012.
>>>
>>> Now eliminating Jose and Isabel as Filomena’s parents fits with a 
>>> revised scenario since I’m somewhat confident that I have found Filomena’s 
>>> real parents recently.
>>>
>>> However, I found no records in which Isabel de Jesus is listed as Isabel 
>>> Thomasia. I found three children for her as Isabel de Jesus:
>>>
>>> Maria (Maria Isabel Carneiro Thomas)
>>> b. 9? Nov 1833  Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores
>>> d. 3 Oct 1927  Contra Costa County, California
>>>
>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P107.html
>>>
>>> Manuel (Manuel T Thomas)
>>> b. 28 Nov 1837  Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores
>>> d. 1920  Antioch, Contra Costa, California
>>>
>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P154.html
>>>
>>> Jose
>>> b. 4 Jul 1841  Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores
>>> d. unknown
>>>
>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P194.html
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Steve
>>>
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