Liz, I'll try. Perhaps a native speaker can correct my mistakes. Beginning on line 4, third from last word:
" sem se descubrir (descobrir) impedimento além de consanguinidade em que foram dispensados no quarto grão (grau) pelo (I believe the name of the Bishop beginning with Ex.mo and ending with Maria Leite Silva) rough translation: without having discovered impediment beyond the consanguinity which has been dispensed in the fourth degree by the Bishop. Cheri and Linda, Thanks for you help. I found another consanguinity chart for canon law that agrees with Cheri. In Roman or civil law first cousins are fourth degree, but in canon law they are second degree. This fourth degree should be third cousins, just as Cheri said. Bill Seidler On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 12:57:15 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: > Hi > > Can u write in Portuguese the dispensation info. So I can see what it > looks like and use as a guide when I'm searching please > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 12, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > of the morning (manha) in this parish church. I'm not getting the one > between Ribeirinha and Porto Judeu, although in that time period, those > freguesias may be next to each other. My best guess is that they are > mentioning the posting of the banns there??? > > Dispenations: > 1st degree: something close, like uncle/niece or aunt/nephew or something > like that. Pretty rare. > 2nd degree: common grandparent, so 1st cousins. > 3rd degree: common great-grandparents, so 2nd cousins. > 4th degree: common 2 greats, so 3rd cousins. > > After that, the Catholic church didn't care about the relation. > > Cheri > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:28 AM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I am hoping some on help with a few questions I have on this marriage of >> my 4G grandparents. It's the record on the left. >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1745-1789/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1745-1789_item1/P172.html >> >> On lines 2-4 after the word annos it says >> >> "de ????? nesta paroquial de Apóstolo S. Pedro do lugar da Ribeirinha >> ????? ?????????? nesta dita paroquial e na paroquial de Santo Antonio do >> lugar de Porto Judeu." >> >> Can someone fill in the missing words. I am curious as to why the parish >> at Porto Judeu is named. I can see later in the document that the bride >> was baptized there. >> >> >> After that it mentions no impediment beyond the consanguinity for which >> they have dispensation. I believe it say it is fourth degree. As I >> understand it according a consanguinity chart on Wikipedia, this would make >> them first cousins. Is my understanding correct? >> >> Bill Seidler >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
