Good Morning Philippe, I have been looking at your correspondence with Linda and realized that I have some of those lines but my information is a little different. It appears that you have done a lot of research on this line and the information you provided is very interesting. I'm concerned about where I have different information then you: A) I have the wife of #42 Rui Dias Evangelho as Maria Rodrigues not Catarina Evangelho. I also have Rui Dias Evangelho being born in Beira but you indicate that he was born Sao Sebastiao, Terceira. Rui Dias Evangelho married to Maria Rodrigues is my 12th Great Grandparents three times through my Coelho Berbereia de Ormonde lines of Altares and Raminho, my 13th GG through the same lines and my 14th GG through my Caetano do Canto lines of Ribeirinha. Since they in my tree 5 times I would like to make sure I have the correct information. Is this a another spouse for Rui Dias Evangelho? Can you help me sort this out? B) I think I'm reading the information wrong on the following- you have Mecia Anes de Andrade being born in Sao Sebastiao, Terceira but then she is the first woman to give birth in the Azores (on a boat off the island of Terceira)? or is she the child that was born off the island of Terceira? C) You have #41 Ines Goncalves Machado, born in Santa Cruz, Terceira as the wife of Pedro de Barcelos. I have Ines G. Seca. Could this person be the same person or is it another spouse for Pedro de Barcelos? and D) You have #10 Marcos de Barcelos Machado (born in Santa Cruz, Terceira) married to Branca Gomes de Lima. I have Marcos de Barcelos Machado (died 3/3/1579 in Santa Cruz, Terceira) married to Maria Lopes Homem. They are my 10th GG three times and my 11th GG once through the Berbereia lines. Did Marcos de Barcelos Machado have another wife? I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks for your time. Doreen
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Philippe GARNIER < mauxcroisesdesa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Linda, > > Alla I have about ascendants of Francisco Pacheco Evangelho. > Abraço > > Philippe Garnier > > Paris - France > > *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisco PACHECO EVANGELHO* > > > > *First Generation* > > > > 1.* Francisco PACHECO EVANGELHO*1 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). > > Francisco married3 *Maria DA FONSECA ESCOTO*2, daughter of Antônio DA > FONSECA SARAIVA and Catarina ESCOTO BOTELHO, on 12 Jun 1645 in Santa Cruz > da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Maria was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). > > > > *Second Generation* > > > > 2.* Antônio PACHECO DE LIMA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). He married4 Susana da Rosa DE SOUSA on 13 Nov 1617 in > Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - Terceira (Açores). > > > > 3.* Susana da Rosa DE SOUSA* was christened5 on 5 Apr 1585 in Santa > Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). > > > > *Third Generation* > > > > 4.* Domingos FERNANDES DE AVILA*6 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). He died on 10 Sep 1610 in Praia - Terceira (Açores). > Domingos married7 Catarina EVANGELHO DE LIMA on 22 Jan 1587 in Santa Cruz > da Praia - Terceira (Açores). > > > > 5.* Catarina EVANGELHO DE LIMA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). > > > > 6.* Bras HENRIQUES* was born in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - > Terceira (Açores). He married Phelipa NUNES. > > > > 7.* Phelipa NUNES* was born in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - > Terceira (Açores). > > > > *Fourth Generation* > > > > 8.* Antônio FERNANDES* "O Pé de Açucar"8 was born in Santa Cruz da > Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married9 Brazia NUNES DE ANTONA on 15 Apr > 1561 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). > > > > Cristão Novo e Mercador > > > > 9.* Brazia NUNES DE ANTONA*10 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). She died on 7 Mar 1612 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira > (Açores). > > > > 10.* Marcos DE BARCELOS MACHADO* "O Bola de Ferro"11,12,13 was born > in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married Branca GOMES DE LIMA. > > > > O filho mais velho ( Rute Dias Gregorio; p. 665-666, testamento de Diogo > de Barcelos) > > Vereador e juiz ordinario da Câmara da Praia. > > > > > > 11.* Branca GOMES DE LIMA*14 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). > > > > *Fifth Generation* > > > > 16.* João GONSALVES* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira > (Açores). He married NR. > > > > 17.* NR*. > > > > 18.* Francisco GONSALVES* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira > (Açores). He married Maria ALVERES DE ANTONA. > > > > 19.* Maria ALVERES DE ANTONA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - > Terceira (Açores). > > > > 20.* Diogo DE BARCELOS MACHADO*15,16,17 died on 10 May 1534 in Praia > - Terceira (Açores). He married Catarina EVANGELHO. > > > > morador no Juncal, Praia. F.C.A. (17-11-1533) > > > > 21.* Catarina EVANGELHO*18,19 was born in São Sebastião - Terceira > (Açores). She died in 1539. > > > > *Sixth Generation* > > > > 40.* Pedro DE BARCELOS*20,21,22 died23 on 9 Apr 1507 in Terceira > (Açores). He married Inès GONSALVES MACHADO. > > Navegador e descobridor, um dos primeiros povoadores de ilha Terceira, > aonde chegou nos primeiros anos da > > 2a metade do séc. XV > > > > http://www.apol.net/dightonrock/pilgrim_chapter_11.htm > > "BARCELOS FAMILY: Besides the Corte Reais there were several other > families from the Island of Terceira > > who were interested in the exploration and colonization of Newfoundland. > One of the most important was the > > Barcelos family which worked on colonization for three generations. > > Pedro Pinheiro, descendant of one of the most noble families of Barcelos > (Town — North of Oporto) migrated > > to Terceira in the last quarter of the 15th Century. (Because of his name > Pinheiro (Pine) his family coat of arms > > contained a pine tree and golden pinecones.) In Terceira he was nicknamed > Barcelos which later became part of > > his name. > > Under a charter granted by King John II (1492), Pedro Pinheiro de Barcelos > made his first voyage to > > Newfoundland with his partner, João Fernandes Labrador (who gave the name > to Labrador). When Pedro > > Pinheiro died in 1507, his son Diogo Pinheiro de Barcelos obtained from > King Manuel I a charter (1508) > > allowing him to continue with the colonization begun by his father. Dr. > Baptista de Lima of the Historical > > Institute of the Island of Terceira, revealed at the first International > Congress of the History of the Discoveries > > (1960) important findings concerning Diogo’s colonization of the Barcelona > Island (Sable Island) — named > > after Barcelos family. > > Diogo had a brother, Afonso Pinheiro de Barcelos, who, according to the > charter granted to them by the King, > > had equal rights (profits) and duties (expenses) in the colonization of > the lands of Bacalhaus. However, because > > Afonso was not willing to participate in any of the expeditions, Diogo > asked for a legal hearing on the matter so > > that he could obtain sole rights to the lands he had colonized. Five > witnesses testified at that hearing (October 7, > > 1531) and all declared that they had seen on the Island of Barcelona: > “Cattle, sheep, goats, and swine taken > > there by Diogo’s ships, and all animals were well fed and multiplied.” > After the hearing, Afonso and his wife > > relinquished all the rights stated in the charter. > > In 1550, Manuel de Barcelos (son of Diogo, and grandson of Pedro de > Barcelos) took with him more domestic > > animals and settlers to continue the colonization of the Barcelona Island. > It is believed that this is the expedition > > referred to by Sir Humphrey Gilbert. " > > > > > > 41.* Inès GONSALVES MACHADO*24,25,26,27,28 was born in Santa Cruz da > Praia - Terceira (Açores). > > > > 42.* Rui DIAS EVANGELHO*29,30 was born in São Sebastião - Ilha > Terceira (Açores). He married Catarina GONSALVES. > > morador na Ribeirinha > > > > 43.* Catarina GONSALVES*31,32 was born in São Sebastião - Ilha > Terceira (Açores). > > > > *Seventh Generation* > > > > 80.* Francisco PINHEIRO*33 married Beatriz DE MARIZ. > > > > Alcaide mór de Barcelos (Portugal) > > > > 81.* Beatriz DE MARIZ*34. > > > > 82.* Gonçalo ANES MACHADO*35,36,37 was born in São Sebastião - > Terceira (Açores). He married Mècia ANES DE ANDRADE. > > Cav. da casa de D. Manuel > > Annaes Vol. I > > p. 25 : " ... Bruges sollicitava achar familias que o acompahassem ; ... > Foi então que nesta viajem, e não a > > primeira vez, como inadvertidamente anda escripto, sahiram da villa de > Guimarães, d'Aveiro, de Lagos, do > > concelho de Vieira, e immediações do Porto, os quatros nobres senadores > João Coelho, João de Ponte; Joõ > > Bernardes, João Leonardes, e Gonçalo Annes da Fonseca, todos de conhecida > nobreza em suas terras. > > > > p. 39 "Escolheu Gonçalo Annes da Fonseca a sua data no terreno que vae do > mar ao cume da Serra do Paul das > > Vaccas, entestando com os biscoitos do Poto Martins, e com a Ribeira > Sècca, limites bem conhecidos . ... > > Depois do que partiram para Lisboa a buscar suas mulheres; (16) a saber o > primeiro a Mecia Annes de Andrade, > > que ... > > > > (16) Gonçalo Annes devia de ser de pouco tempo casado, porque se diz que > Mecia Annes viera pejada com > > Gaspar Gonçalves seu primogenito, como ja se disse." > > > > 83.* Mècia ANES DE ANDRADE*38,39,40 was born in São Sebastião - > Terceira (Açores). > > > > Machado : The name came to the Island of Terceira in the 15th Century with > a woman named Mecia de > > Andrade Machado, who was reportedly the first woman to give birth at the > Azores - on a boat off the coast of > > Terceira. > > http://www.ptreyeslight.com/azores1/namesazore.html > > > > *Appendix A - Sources* > > 1. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, Lisboa - 1994, p. 206. > > 2. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 206. > > 3. Arquivos de Angra - Santa Cruz da Praia, L° dos casamentos > 1633-1679, ph. 48. 4° grau de consanguinidade. > > 4. Arquivos de Angra - Santa Sé, ph. 77. > > 5. Arquivos de Angra - Santa Cruz da Praia, ph. 25. > > 6. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 206. > > 7. Arquivos de Angra - Santa Cruz da Praia, L° dos casamentos > 1585-1592, ph .10. > > 8. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 205. > > 9. Arquivos de Angra - Santa Cruz da Praia, ph. 14. > > 10. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 205. > > 11. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 206. > > 12. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 665-666, testamento de Diogo de Barcelos. > > 13. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 686-688, testamento de Catarina Evangelho. > > 14. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 206. > > 15. Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica, p. 29. > > 16. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 626-627, testmentod Pedro de Barcelos e p. > 673-674, testamento de Ines Gonçalves. > > 17. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 665-666, testamento de Diogo de Barcelos. > > 18. Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica, p. 29. > > 19. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 665-666, testamento de Diogo de Barcelos. > > 20. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, A.C. n° XIX. > > 21. Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica, p. 77. > > 22. Frei Diogo das Chagas, Espelho Cristalino em jardim de varias > flores, 1989, p. 307. > > 23. Mensagems Lista Açores. > > 24. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, p. 155. > > 25. Nobiliario da ilha Terceira, vol II, p. 281. > > 26. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 626-627, testmentod Pedro de Barcelos e p. > 673-674, testamento de Ines Gonçalves. > > 27. Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica, p. 77. > > 28. Frei Diogo das Chagas, Espelho Cristalino em jardim de varias > flores, p. 307. > > 29. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, AC n° XVI. > > 30. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 686-688, testamento de Catarina Evangelho. > > 31. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, AC n° XVI. Maria Rodrigues. > > 32. Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios da ilha Terceira > 1450-1550, tome II , p. 685-686. > > 33. Mensagems Lista Açores. > > 34. Mensagems Lista Açores. > > 35. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, AC n° XVI. > > 36. Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica, p. 77. > > 37. Frei Diogo das Chagas, Espelho Cristalino em jardim de varias > flores, p. 333. > > 38. Victorino Nemésio e Gonçalo Nemésio, *Uma familia do Ramo grande - > Ilha Terceira*, AC n° XVI, e p. 154. > > 39. Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica, p. 77. > > 40. Frei Diogo das Chagas, Espelho Cristalino em jardim de varias > flores, p. 333. > > Le samedi 26 septembre 2015 22:12:15 UTC+2, linda a écrit : >> >> >> right side page, top record: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html >> >> >> Hi Group, >> >> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three areas >> I would like help with, please. >> >> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't >> make out. I see the bride's information as: >> >> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] >> defunto, e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..." >> >> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: >> if these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the >> groom's parents have similar?) >> >> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note >> about a dispensation of consanguinity. I read that the consanguinity is of >> the 4th degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand >> whether the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information >> of interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases. >> >> Thanks very much for help and suggestions, >> >> Linda >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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