Philippe and Sandra. I sent several email to Sandra and Philippe but the copies 
sent to Phillip did not go through.  I was trying to email these directly since 
determine the connection of the two families was something mainly the three of 
us were working on. Philippe, please email me at [email protected] Thanks 
Doreen

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From: Sandra Valine Dauer
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Biscoitos Terceira Berberea 1872 Marriage


Philippe and Doreen
Thank you for the list of 5 different married couples and the list of common 
ancestors.
I located the above couple # 80 and #81 on your list and related them back to 
Antonio Ferreira Berberia and Lourenca Justiniane. 
But the other 4 couples on Philipee listing and the same 4 couples plus 
Bartolmeu Rodrigues Vieira M 1671 and Luzia Vieira Margues, I'm not seeing the 
common ancestors on the list or in my records.
Please help me understand the connections.  Thank you  Sandra Valine Dauer 

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]> wrote:
Philppe I'm amazed again for all your research and sharing of the Ahnentafel 
Chart for my Great-Great Grandfather Antonio Ferreira Berberia.  The report 
extends my lines more than I could do in my lifetime.
1.--Your #16, Pedro Enes Berbeira,  I have a death date of 24 Jan 1710, Saint 
Beatris, Quatro Ribeiras. 
Source: Livro de Obitos, Quatro Ribeiras, l.#2: 1702-1976, F40V & f41.  (found 
by David E. Bertao)  For his wife, Maria Alves, I also have 11 Oct 1706.
2.--Your #32, Pedro Enes Berberea I have the death date as of 08 Jun 1678.
Source: Livro de Obitos, Quatro Ribeiras, L. #1: 1684-1702 (Fragmentos de 
Livros) (found by David E Bertao)
I do not have death date for his wife Maria Lourenco.
3.--Your #12 Nicolao Borges Coelho and #13 Maria de Sao Joao,  12 Feb 1711 
marriage.  I am unable to find this reference online Terceira Marriage index.  
Your appendex sources are very good; however #10 ph 128.  The index list 
different name and date for 128.  Please clarify or help me find the reference. 
 Thank you.  Thank you  Sandra Valine Dauer

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Doreen Caetano <[email protected]> wrote:
Sandra, we have been looking for the connection between our families (as 
indicated through Family Tree DNA) these are it. I too have Domingos de Aguiar 
and Maria Lucas, Estavao Afonso de Avila and Catarina Rodrigues Fagundes, Joao 
de Aguiar and unknown wife, Antao Ferreira de Aguiar and Beatris Goncalves. I 
also have a Bartolomeu Rodrigues Vieira born in Santo ANtonio married to a 
Luzia Vieira Marques married 1671.  Maybe it is the same couple? Once you have 
charted the connection maybe we can utilize that to help us determine our 
relationship. Doreen Caetano

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Philippe GARNIER <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Hi Sandra,

Not with me, but with may wife :
1 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are 5th 
cousins 5 times removed.  Their common ancestor is Bartholomeo VIEIRA and 
unknown
2 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are 6th 
cousins 4 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Domingos FERREIRA DE 
AGUIAR and Maria LUCAS.
3 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are 9th 
cousins 4 times removed.  Their common ancestors are João DE AGUIAR and Unknown.
4 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are 10th 
cousins 5 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Estevão AFONSO and 
Catarina RODRIGUES FAGUNDES.
5 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are 5th 
cousins 6 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Antão FERREIRA DE AGUIAR 
and Beatris GONSALVES.

Abraço

Philippe

Le mardi 8 septembre 2015 02:10:51 UTC+2, Sandra Valine Dauer a écrit :
Need some help with word / sentences in this marriage of my Great-Grandparents. 
Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer
11... Day of January 1872, Sao Pedro, Biscoitos, Villa da Praia da Vitoria, 
Angra do Heroismo
Antonio Ferreira Berberea and Marianna do Coracao de Jesus......... he 21.... 
single, worker, native of this parish, legitimo of Antonio Ferreira Berberea, 
of this parish,  and Laurenca Justinianna..............................Priest 
Vila Praia de Vitoria Joaquim da Silva Mattos, .......... She... native parish 
Sao Rogue, Altares, Angra.  She (bride) age 17......single native and baptized 
parish Biscoitos, daughter legitimo Manuel Soares de Sousa and Francisca 
Ignasia, natives of this village.........not sure what next lines read......... 
husband/ wife....... Santa Marie?   Catholic Church ........
witnesses church officials  Manuel Cardoso Vieira, Angra and Joao Maria da Silva

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-C-1870-1879/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-C-1870-1879_item1/P19.html
 
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